Episode Transcript
[00:00:09] Speaker A: I lost the music.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: It's probably somewhere on my computer, but I can't find it. This is Elliot, and it is about to be March 11, which. And today, March 10 is the sixth anniversary of sipping Mimos. And I thought I should put out something, right?
We just put out the My two parts of the Teddy Bears review. The third part audio got pretty muffly,
[00:00:34] Speaker A: but I'll see what I can do about it.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: I just wanted to put something out and I dug up an old review that we recorded but didn't release for whatever reason. It's the Strokes vs. LCD sound system. I hope you enjoy it. But I did want to say just thank you to everyone who listens and thank you to Jake.
And, you know, this whole endeavor has been a lot of fun.
You know, we're very infrequent because of life. You know, a lot has happened in the last six years.
Jake and I are fathers. We don't have a lot of time to do this stuff, but we sure enjoy doing it.
I think of it like our little fun little project that also enables us to catch up with each other and stay in touch and enjoy each other's company.
And, you know, there's been a lot of ups and downs in our lives.
And there was a certain point in my life where I kind of woke up one morning, I didn't want to listen to music.
I just gotten sick of the whole endeavor. And that's a rough way as a music fan to wake up one day.
But through this project, revisiting old albums that make made me fall in love with music.
And then listening to the same from Jake, it really reignited this.
Well, this passion that we both have.
And I think it's a beautiful thing, a beautiful thing to share music with each other and a beautiful thing to discuss art. And even if sometimes you don't like it, it's a good thing to be cultured and. And try new things.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: That's kind of what it's all about.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: What I don't consider as us, I don't consider us a music criticism show. I. I consider us a music appreciation show.
So that's kind of what I think we've been going for.
So this is an older recording. I think you'll enjoy it. And we will be back, I promise, with a lot more and plenty ahead. Love you guys.
Find us on all the Things.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: Subscribe or whatever.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: Yeah, you don't have to tell your friends.
[00:02:44] Speaker A: You don't have to either.
[00:02:46] Speaker B: But I sure hope you're out there
[00:02:47] Speaker A: and I sure hope you are.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Oh, I messed it up. I sure hope that you stay sipping.
[00:03:04] Speaker C: Can't you see I'm trying?
I don't even like it I just love to get to your apartment Now I'm staying pigeons for a while I can't think Cause I'm just way too tired.
Is this it?
Is this it?
Is this it?
[00:03:46] Speaker D: Hey, wait a second.
[00:03:47] Speaker C: Hey.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
[00:03:50] Speaker D: Hey there, listener.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Hi, Jake.
[00:03:57] Speaker D: Hey.
Cheers.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Cheers, bud.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Clink, clink.
[00:04:04] Speaker D: All right, so my album this week is by a five piece band from New York called the Strokes. And the album is called Is this.
Was released on July 30, 2001.
And yeah, this is kind of a big one in the world of popular music, I'd say.
Elliot, what did you think about Is this it?
[00:04:35] Speaker A: Big fan of this album. Yeah.
[00:04:38] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:04:38] Speaker A: Okay.
Absolutely. Is this it?
Love it. So, disclaimer. For listeners and any friends of mine that like to make fun of me, this episode is probably going to have a lot of New York City stories.
Okay. From myself, because, yeah, I used to live there for a minute. Like, not even that long. Like seven, eight years, like. But give me a break.
[00:05:09] Speaker D: I mean, if there was an episode
[00:05:12] Speaker A: to talk about New York and New York stories and Elliot in New York, this is it.
[00:05:18] Speaker D: Yeah, this is the one. This is what we were building to it.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: Is this it?
I hope so.
[00:05:26] Speaker D: When did you first. What's your first memory of Is this It by the Strokes?
[00:05:32] Speaker A: That's an awesome question. I think I heard it in college. So let's see. Yeah, 201. Perfect.
[00:05:39] Speaker D: Was it around the time you went to see Fast and Furious, the part one.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: It, like Legit Might have Been.
[00:05:46] Speaker D: Came out the same year.
[00:05:49] Speaker A: How about that?
[00:05:50] Speaker D: This was a super hit.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: In 01, I had graduated from high school, I had moved to Florida, and I was in art school on a.
Met a lot of people and we're all having fun making art and learning about contrast and the rule of the thirds and all this. But, but, but the Strokes had come out in this era of this weird, seemingly weird revival of what they were calling retro rock. I don't think that's quite correct. And you'll. You'll have to help me out on this. Like, with the Stripes. The Red Stripes, Hives.
It was.
[00:06:28] Speaker D: And then there was the era of the bands.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: The. The bands, yes. The Strokes became like a much repeated band in Sweet, to the point. Three minutes in and out of a song, you're done. Like the Beatles did or some. You know, and like, it seems like that was their idea. But we were way into a man. And this album was, is so catchy and so memorable and, and I beloved and it's just fun. And by the time I got like, to New York, like, this was it.
[00:07:04] Speaker D: These are like hometown heroes.
When you got to New York, had New York already claimed them as like, their, their champions or what was that like?
[00:07:18] Speaker A: I think I got there right after, like, the Strokes were like the biggest deal in the world, but that was a sound and it was like, now considered, like, because culture moves so quick there.
It was considered like New York classic. This is classic New York hipster. Both the albums we're talking about tonight are about New York City. This was in my era, the coolest
[00:07:42] Speaker C: ever.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Both the bands we're talking about tonight, like, if you're, say, I don't know, a kid in his twenties trying to play records at a bar.
And if you, and you play a Strokes record, people will enjoy you.
So that's, that should be enough. But also the music is fucking great. But are they trying to, like I said before, like this retro rock thing, are they trying to do. It's like Ramones like, three minute song thing. Are they trying to mimic something? Are they trying to make it, make something new? I don't know.
I'm sure we'll get to Jake to that. The simplicity is gorgeous. Casablancas is singing through a megaphone into another microphone. It seems to be the entire time he's like, is screaming his lyrics through a telephone.
The bass lines are, are out of this world. They're so cool. But behind all of this is this, like, New York thing of, like, what is this? Like, okay, are we going to talk about New York as a, like, ant colony?
World headquarters world, you know, world capital place, like, that's super hip and cool to be in, or is it miserable because you're in a ant colony?
What, what do musicians and artists in New York think is valuable? Well, awareness of the, of the tiers of society and all of that leads to a, like a whole, like, underlaying, like, and like frosting on top of your New York City cake of cynicism.
And I find a lot of that in the Strokes.
Jake hit me.
[00:09:40] Speaker D: I, I, I, I can agree with that. I definitely get that cynicism in there.
This is an album that.
So I sent you a music video by the band some 41, which is a pop punk band.
And in the band, they're, they're spoofing the Strokes.
They're spoofing the sums. Yeah, it's Will Sasso is the A R guy.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: Sasso, yeah. And the Hives, too, right?
[00:10:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:10] Speaker D: It's like, remember the Hives?
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Where'd they go?
[00:10:13] Speaker D: The Hives are still with it. There's Hives rock.
[00:10:16] Speaker C: Oh, really?
[00:10:17] Speaker A: Huh. I like that one song they had.
[00:10:19] Speaker D: I saw them open for Pink, but growing up, I remember the Hives a lot more. And, yeah, they. They kind of stole the show for me. But, yeah, that was fun.
They came out all wearing suits and everything. I digress. That was my introduction to the Strokes. It was. It was them being spoofed in this video, and it was like.
Will Sass was like, you know what? You're smoking now. You're smoking. You're smoking.
And they're spoofing the Last Night video, which I remember not liking that at all when I. When I first heard.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: That was your introduction to the Strokes last night?
[00:10:53] Speaker D: Yeah, the music video. So you gotta Remember, this is 2001. I am 13.
I am the biggest Blink 182 pop punk kid in the world. The music I'm listening to is, you know, a little bit, you know, crunchier guitars, certainly clear, like, more like clearer guitars, if that makes sense. Like, recorded in such a way.
You know, it. They sounded just so clean.
I remember when I first heard last night, I was like, this is.
[00:11:25] Speaker C: This.
[00:11:25] Speaker D: This doesn't sound like. This sounds, like, jarring to my. To my ears. I was like, oh, I don't know if I was maybe, like, ready for that sound.
So I didn't really take to it.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: That.
[00:11:39] Speaker D: That's not. It wasn't where I was at in 2000.
[00:11:42] Speaker A: You didn't. You didn't like it?
[00:11:43] Speaker D: I didn't. I did not.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: You didn't like the Strokes?
[00:11:47] Speaker D: I did not.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Heard it. That's curious. I don't. So you know what? I don't think I've ever heard about someone not liking the Strokes. The first time I heard it.
[00:11:56] Speaker D: Yeah, I.
I just don't know. I. I thought, like, I remember, like, even back then, thinking, like, I think these guys are just trying to look cool.
[00:12:06] Speaker A: Well, we're gonna have to talk about the coolness of all.
[00:12:10] Speaker D: Well, very. And I think it was probably my first exposure to hipsterdom, you know?
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
Where were you?
Yeah, like, where were you? Like, Like. Like, were you in San Marcos?
[00:12:26] Speaker D: San Antonio?
[00:12:28] Speaker A: San Antonio.
Were you a little, like.
Like, New York can't be that cool?
Was that your reaction?
[00:12:39] Speaker D: It was back then. You know, I was just like a.
I was 12, 13. I was 12 when this album Came out. Oh God, you're so turning, getting ready to turn 13.
And I remember my good friend Matt, he was so cool. He had the cd. I remember, I remember him playing it. And I remember thinking like, I don't like these drums. Like, You know, like the drums like that. I remember I was like, I, I, I, you know, like, I, I'm not, I'm not connecting with this. And he was like. And I remember him being like, it's so good. It's so good. And I'd be like, I don't know. I, I, I, I don't know.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Did you like.
Were you into the Cure yet?
[00:13:24] Speaker D: I mean, the, the singles at that point, I saw it like, probably at that point it was Friday, I'm In Love.
So not. They're like deep, deep cuts.
I, I think my, the first, like, the first.
I, I think I had to go back to that. Velvet Underground, Warhol's Factory, cbgb, Maxis, Kansas City. I think I had to go back before I could go forward and really appreciate, and really appreciate the Strokes. Because listening, listening to it today, just, you know, with the Mimos ear.
Yes, you can hear, you can hear all of that. That grimy 1970s, mid-60s New York. You can, it's, it's there in, in this record. It's very present. And going back with that, that year, I realized like, oh, you know, there, there was something, there was something here. I just needed to educate myself to appreciate it for sure.
[00:14:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: So what made you pick this record?
[00:14:35] Speaker D: Because I know it's so as, as you know, I've oftentimes I will bring an album to, to the table that I have always kind of like been circling.
Oh, and this is one of those, this is one of the album. It's. I remember, like, I mean, I still do constantly see it on best of list, you know, greatest albums all time.
[00:14:59] Speaker A: I have several friends who consider this their favorite record of all time.
[00:15:04] Speaker D: Well, like, and I was, you know, doing some research. I mean, like, people said like, like Rolling Stone called them like a new immortal band that, that will stand the test of time.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Oh, I wanted to go that far, maybe. But, yeah, but there's like, that's, that's pretty impactful words.
[00:15:21] Speaker D: Yeah. Like just constantly at the top of all these lists. And besides, I think our, I think our friend Reuben played.
He would play the Modern Age at open mic and I, I didn't even realize it was Stroke Song. In all honesty, the album, I, I don't have this one on vinyl, but I do own Angles on vinyl. I really like that one.
Yeah, I just, I think because in, in, in my mind, I, I just have that, like. Oh, the guitar sound. The guitars don't sound really clean and it kind of sounds kind of sloppy. But then, you know, and then, like I said, I had to go back and, and listen to that Velvet Underground stuff. Like, listen to, I mean, listen to, like, Television, another band that's, like, all over. Such a big influence on this record, I think. And Ramones too.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:16:17] Speaker D: Like I said, made me really appreciate it. For sure.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Okay. Wait. Did you like this one?
[00:16:24] Speaker D: I did, yeah.
[00:16:26] Speaker A: I did. You went up an octave.
[00:16:28] Speaker D: I did.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: It's fine.
[00:16:33] Speaker D: It's. I, I, I, I liked 63% of the songs.
[00:16:38] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
[00:16:42] Speaker D: The latter, the latter of our two albums I preferred, for sure, but we'll get there.
Yeah, I, I definitely got. And I don't know, I, I know that this one's beloved, but, like, I, I was listening. I've been listening to Lizzie Goodman's audio book of Meet Me in the bathroom came out, 2017.
It, it's an oral history of, like, the 90s to early, early 2000s rock scene in New York. So essentially the book form of our show.
But it's, it's amazing. It's, it's great. It's. If you love, like, Please Kill me by Legs McNeil, the history of punk rock, you'll, you'll really like this one. And it's all about New York.
And it's just, it's, it's, it's really interesting. So all the guys in the Strokes were, like, super well connected starting out, which doesn't mean it doesn't diminish their art at all.
I'm not a believer in that.
But it just. When they started off, it, it's almost like they had, they were already so well connected. They already had, like, they were already on magazine covers before they'd put out a record.
I don't, I don't find it as genuine an article as, as I would have liked, but, yeah, that's, that's kind of where I'm at with this one.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: It's because, like, I would submit to you that, like, they're an answer to the west coast blink of it all.
And they're like, this is the New York.
We're already rich. We don't have to give a.
Which is a big New York thing. Like, we're just doing this for fun. And I'm accidentally a genius.
Like, is that a, is that. And like, like there's Literal, like, moments in the songs when Julian is like, I don't care.
Like, we're done.
Is that. Is that. Do you. Is the lack of effort?
[00:18:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:55] Speaker D: Oh, yes. That actually.
That actually kind of, like, sums it up really nicely.
Okay.
[00:19:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Okay.
[00:19:04] Speaker D: I've heard things where.
I've heard things where Julian Casplan has done, like, he did an amazing song with Daft Punk on Random Access Memories.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: Frankly, it's. It's fine.
[00:19:18] Speaker C: All right.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: And, hey, that was Elliot saying that it's fine.
[00:19:22] Speaker D: Like I said, I love.
I love Angles. I have that one on vinyl.
Some of his solo stuff I've enjoyed, but, like, it's this one. It just. Sometimes it just kind of struck me as, like, I'm too cool for this, you know? It's almost like I don't want to show, like.
Like I'm too cool to show that. Like, I. I'm. I. I care about this. And, like, the way he's just kind of, like.
He just, like, kind of stops singing, you know, at times.
Yeah. It just.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: I'm so tired.
Yeah.
Like, finish your song, bro.
Like.
Yeah, there is a vibe. Yes. And we'll get. Okay, let's get into this, because there is a vibe of. This doesn't even matter.
[00:20:06] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And. And I. I certainly glean that from the. Gleam that. From the. Glean it from the music. And I think.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Boy.
Okay, well. Okay. If I may for a minute.
Damn. You didn't like it?
[00:20:28] Speaker D: No, no, I. I thought it was.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: That was a whole new octave.
[00:20:34] Speaker D: The dogs just started barking in the neighborhood.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Piper's so upset right now.
[00:20:38] Speaker D: No, I mean, it was great. I mean, it's. It's a timepiece. You know, it's.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: You.
[00:20:45] Speaker D: You look at the. Look at the albums that came out in 2001. It's like. It's new metal. It's like pop, you know, There was nothing like this, you know, so do I think it. It changed the game. Oh, yeah. You can hear the Strokes, you know, today. You know this from this album, you get Franz Ferdinand, you get the Kill, the Killers, who straight up, like, lifted that baseline. Lifted Nikolai Fractures baseline from the title track.
Did you notice? Did you pick up on that?
[00:21:16] Speaker A: No.
[00:21:18] Speaker D: So go back and listen to.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: I thought you would. I thought you would love the bass lines so much. I thought the baselines were sick.
[00:21:25] Speaker D: The bass lines are stand out to me. I think that. That may.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: You know, I think.
[00:21:30] Speaker D: I think Nikolai's baselines might have been my favorite.
Favorite part of.
Of the. Of the record, but if you go back and listen to previous episode Hot Fuzz, Jenny was a friend.
That's. That's straight up the Killers. I'm sorry, That's. That's straight up the Strokes. Which makes sense because as we discussed, Brandon Flowers heard the Killers and was like, okay, we're scratching everything. We're starting. We're starting from square one.
He was so influenced by this band. So, yeah, you don't get the Killers. You don't get Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys, you, You know, Kings of Leon, these. Arcade Fire, these major bands. You don't get those without the Strokes. Is this. So I do think it's. I do think it's an important artifact, but the cynicism of it all, I don't know, it just didn't land with me.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: You know what it is? It's.
[00:22:25] Speaker C: Well.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: Well, do you like. Okay, do you like glam rock?
[00:22:29] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. T. Rex, Bowie, Def Leppard.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: Oh,
[00:22:38] Speaker D: love Def Leppard.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: Okay.
It's about excess.
Yeah.
Not access. Access.
And this. Maybe the Strokes is a little more access than excess.
I just made that up.
Oh, it's brilliant.
[00:22:55] Speaker D: That was great. That's the episode title.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Maybe these kids are. Maybe episode. Maybe these kids are portraying struggle when they don't have to work a day in their life and they live in Manhattan and they have the best cocaine and the best weed and they can sleep with anyone they want.
And somehow they're good. They're good at writing melodies and. Or they're good at stealing them, but, like, you know, there it is.
But these songs, every single, every single track on this album is a absolute banger.
And if you drop any one of these at a bar in the Lower east side or Brooklyn, you're gonna get people going.
[00:23:49] Speaker D: I. I think you, You. You nailed it right there. I think trying to portray that because, you know, all the guys are meant for. From very affluent families. Like, yeah, Hammond, like, send, like send their sons off to a border. A boarding school in Switzerland. Affluent and all, like, incredibly handsome.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: They're all really good looking. I wonder if that's by design.
[00:24:15] Speaker D: Yeah, Julian. Julian Casplanca is a, you know, a beautiful man.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: Tall. They're all very handsome. Yeah.
[00:24:26] Speaker D: And. And I think, like, trying to, like, I think you're. This is why I love this show because I'm able to bounce my.
My thoughts off you. And you have a way of, like, interpreting them in your. In your way for it to make sense to me. And I think that's it.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: And.
[00:24:44] Speaker D: And I think, you know, you joke about Your time in New York and you.
[00:24:47] Speaker C: You.
[00:24:48] Speaker D: You know, you dog on yourself. But as I. As I say, and I'll still say it, I appreciate it, because I don't know what life in. What life in those burrows are.
Are like.
So. I mean. And in this book, you know, meet me in the bathroom, they talk about Alphabet City. They talk about the meat packing district and how. And it's like. It's people from this scene, and they talk about how, you know, we were bored, so we would. We wanted to go downtown where people were. For shooting up and, like, were getting murdered and doing, like, you know, all these bad things because we thought it was cool, you know. Oh, yeah, that's cool. We're gonna be down here and.
And that kind of. I think that kind of painted. Is this it for me? Like, it just seems like, you know, we don't need to. But this is.
This is us being edgy and. And the songs are. Yeah, the songs are undeniable, for sure, but I. I don't know.
It just doesn't. Sometimes it just comes off as.
I don't know, Not. Not as genuine as I. As I would have liked.
But. But I would buy the vinyl. I would. I actually went to go look. I actually went to look for it today.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Okay, before I get back to this genuine idea, there are two different album covers of this. There's two different releases. Releases. Releases.
[00:26:19] Speaker D: Releases.
[00:26:20] Speaker A: All right. The international cover of this.
Of. It's hard to. It's kind of hard to say. And. And Google is this. It is the international one with the butt.
[00:26:31] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:26:32] Speaker A: And then there's the American with the fractals, like, the blue and orange thing. Which one do you want to buy?
[00:26:41] Speaker D: Well, the collector in me would want the. The OG
[00:26:47] Speaker A: which one's the O.J. i don't know. I think the buck came first. Yeah.
[00:26:50] Speaker D: Yeah. But it was. It was deemed, like, too sexual for American audiences.
[00:26:55] Speaker A: Bruce Springsteen can put his ass and on. On the COVID All right. It's not that scandal. It's true. It's quite.
You know, it's not. It's quite chaste, truly. If in the scheme of things. Yeah, I would go. I would go for the butt one over the dumb. Like.
[00:27:13] Speaker D: See, I always.
[00:27:14] Speaker A: Now we call it AI Fractal, like, nonsense. I. I think the butt one's way better.
[00:27:19] Speaker D: See, I always. I always saw this as, like.
Yeah, I always saw that as like.
Like stained glass. That's how I interpret it. But now that I'm really, really looking at it.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: Oh, the other. The other cover okay.
[00:27:32] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: No, I would go international with it. So I'm very curious that you didn't really dig on this one. I would think this would be right. Your eye. And you chose it.
[00:27:44] Speaker D: Yeah. You know, was. It was like. I'm glad, I'm glad I listened to it all the way through.
But, you know, and I hate, I hate saying like things like, oh, is it what. What art is genuine? I hate saying that, you know.
Yeah, but that's just. That's kind of like where. That's kind of like where, where and how I'm. I'm interpreting it. And as someone who tries to like pride themselves on like, you know, I like, you know, you know, being open when it comes to, you know, everything, especially music.
I found myself kind of like rolling my eyes listening to it. Like, like, okay, Julian cast a blind because, you know.
[00:28:30] Speaker A: But you weren't just vibing out to it and dancing along.
[00:28:34] Speaker D: No, no, no. I. I certainly had. Had my list. So I mentioned the title track. Is this it? I love this. This may have been my favorite song on it.
Yeah, I love the Modern Age. I thought it had a really great guitar solo, this song.
I hear a lot of Lou Reed in this song and I hear a ton of Pavement as well. Another. Another favorite 90s band of mine and Julie. And this song stood out to me because Julian actually lets loose with his vocals and I found it refreshing.
You know, he's like really pushing his vocals instead of just kind of like mumbling them and just kind of.
So, yeah, I really like the Modern Age.
I love the guitar soul on Alone Together. This. This album is actually really riff heavy and I think that's important, you know,
[00:29:27] Speaker A: that's the whole thing, dude.
[00:29:28] Speaker D: Like with riffs, you, riffs kind of has like a heavy metal connotation to it. Like you're just like, oh yeah, tasty riffs.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: But I. I get you. I'm just kind of shocked that you're not like. This is my favorite.
[00:29:46] Speaker D: The Hard to Explain. I love the Suicide esque punk rock style drums on this one. Even though there aren't.
They're not electronic.
That is all Fabrizio Moretti.
Take it or leave it. Very punk. Awesome Closer.
The rhythm guitar reminded me a lot of the Ramones and the bass and the guitar for so much of.
So much of this album. Or they're just so locked in so tight with each other and I, I
[00:30:18] Speaker A: really, really like that.
[00:30:20] Speaker C: Okay,
[00:30:24] Speaker D: I threw you for a loop
[00:30:25] Speaker A: this week a little bit. But like this. But this album paints this picture of Just party.
Yeah, party.
All it is is party. Kind of of like, while I. Why I brought up, like, Def Leverage and like that, like, excess, like this, but this, like, New York young hipster excess in the aughts and 2010s and all that is just don't stop. Just keep going, going.
[00:30:57] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: And I got a little taste of that when I was there. Like, but is it exhausting? And. But these. Both these albums that we're going to talk about tonight are absolutely the theme to all that.
There was one October where we realized we had been celebrating Halloween for 48 hours, and we hadn't. We hadn't stopped.
I'm like, that's pretty cool.
Upload the Facebook photo album, call it 48 Hours of Halloween.
And we all decided, after a good sleep and a Diet Coke and a viewing of Hot Rod and Super bad, next year, 72 hours of Halloween.
And we did.
[00:31:55] Speaker C: And
[00:31:58] Speaker A: when we were just raging so hard in that ant colony of a city, we would play a lot of Strokes and we would play a lot of this band called LCD Sound System.
[00:32:18] Speaker C: It's time to get away it's time to get away from you it's time to get away it's time to get away oh, from you.
You brought a lot of money above me
[00:32:43] Speaker A: oh, Kissing taddy tummy
[00:32:49] Speaker C: and you, you make me sleep I try and try but you undermine me huh.
And I start to be sensible.
So
[00:33:04] Speaker D: this was bringing LCD Sound System to the show, I think is a long time coming, because I know they're one of your favorites.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: I'm a big fan of this.
The LCD Sound System output. I think it's fantastic.
[00:33:19] Speaker D: So tell me, how did you come to LCD Sound System? Were they. Were they part of the.
The cultural ether by the time you had gotten to New York City? Like, what's your history with this band?
[00:33:32] Speaker A: I got to New York, like, right when this album kind of was about to come out. I think I had moved from Michigan to New York, and I was like, well, I. I don't. I don't want to be in Michigan anymore. I'm gonna move to New York. I'll. I'll do this, like, the exact same thing in New York.
I'll speak cool. In New York, I had a friend and I moved out there.
Shout out Becky. And. And then the show.
[00:34:00] Speaker D: Becky.
[00:34:01] Speaker A: Shout out Becky. And we. We were roommates for a long time.
I kind of realized, like, oh, I can't play this here.
Meaning drum and bass. Like, I was playing drum and bass, which is like a really high Tempo electronic music that was like. Like raving in Michigan with.
At very specific shows. It takes you a while to get into that niche or niche. And then so I moved to New York and, like, oh, it's very different.
So I ended up DJing, certainly, but DJing instead of, like, I was like, so in the Midwest, I was, like, booked for, like, an hour and rarely two hours. That was like. That was a fun time. So I get to, like, take people on a journey, like, go up for an hour.
That's your hour. Because, you know, there's a bunch of people on the. On the.
On the, you know, line.
And then I moved to New York. They're like, okay, dj. Just DJ for six hours.
Like, oh, all right.
Good thing.
I was listening to everything.
Like, when I was back in the Midwest after going to college in Florida, I was in a weird, obsessive mood where I was listening to everything, filtering it through, and, like, picking what I like and, like, finding all these new bands. And my friend Becky was out in New York, and she's like, hey, what. What should I be listening to? Oh, I'm in the. I'm in Manhattan.
All my friends are new music.
What could I impress them with? Essentially, I'm like, this, this, this, this.
And she became the music kid. So then I moved out there. She's like, hey, this is my music hookup, Elliot. Boom.
I get connects. I get connected, meet a lot of people, get a new haircut, start drinking beer.
Then I'm like, oh, no one here likes drum and bass. You know, like the music I've been playing for a while. Like, no, that's like. You'd have to go pretty deep underground to find that. I would try it, and I tried, but what's really popping is, like, this, you know, indie dance thing, which I was, you know, already kind of into, and, like, in vibing out on, like, it'd be cool and played all this at once, wouldn't it? So I ended up, like, with a. Not for lack of trying. Ended up, like, getting a lot of residencies around Manhattan in Lower east side and. Yes, Alphabet City and. And Williamsburg and all this stuff. All these, you know, just deep hipster and, like, definitive hipster stuff was Strokes and then LCD sound system.
Yeah. And James Murphy was this dude where, like, he's just, like, definitive, aging hipster.
Meaning, like, he just. He's just a little bit older than we are, but, like, not by that much. But when you're cool, you age exponentially until.
Until you're Philip Seymour Hoffman and Almost famous. Like it, like, like the curve is very. There's like, that's what all this is about. Is it about cool and being like, you know, now, you know, being like of note and all this. But within all this New York coolness is the cynicism which, which, which is a lot of. What else City Sound System is about?
Like, it's just about aging. It's about fear of the new, new kids coming in. It's about, it's about trying to prove like, I was there, I promise you I was. No, you, the kids don't get it. But writing songs about it and like, don't you kind of feel sorry for the guy A little bit. But I think it's also like glorious. Also on this album, Son of Silver, the second album from LC sounds as them as like these love stories to culture, love stories to a friend who he might have lost what New York used to be and is now. But isn't that neat? But he's also saying this from the top of the totem pole. James Murphy is saying, I love you New York, but you're bringing me down.
But you're king of New York right now.
[00:38:49] Speaker D: A lot of like, it's like contradiction,
[00:38:52] Speaker A: you know, Almost braggadocious, you know.
[00:38:56] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: What'd you think of 7 silver?
[00:39:01] Speaker D: This is one that.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: Oh my God. You didn't like either album? No, no, no.
[00:39:08] Speaker D: I was gonna say this is one that I'm, I'm glad we have. We've had, you know, the past couple of seasons to, to prepare me for this one.
I. So a lot of the songs are long for sure. But after hearing like Bet, you know, or what's what's It, Losing my train of thought now. Even like Chemical Bros. Some Chemical Bro stuff.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: Sasha.
[00:39:40] Speaker D: Sasha.
These epic long tracks, 8, 9, 10 minute epics, prepared me, you know, prepare me listen for the little nuances, the little changes, the little turns.
[00:39:52] Speaker A: You're ready for a 10 minute long discos.
[00:39:58] Speaker D: But no, I, I thought this one was a lot of fun. You, I, I know you play all my friends at your shows because I know I remember dancing to that one.
So that one was like fresh in my.
All my friends.
[00:40:14] Speaker A: Sorry.
[00:40:15] Speaker D: All your friends.
That one was. I heard that one was. Oh, I know this because, you know, you played it at your, at some of your gigs before and always bring, you know, always brought the house down with our, with our group of friends.
But no, I like James Murphy. It's so interesting. I, I've seen this guy. He always looks so like, so, like he, he's not caressing, he's cradling a mic. In all the photos you see of him live, he's, he's cradling it like it's, it's, it's like, it's like his, it's like his baby, you know. And hearing like the music, I was like, oh, wait, you know. And actually you sent me New York I Love youe. You play the hits. Hearing him speak, I, I kind of got like, like a Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys vibe from him, you know, like, you know, like I, so I, I. James Murphy's like one of those like, guys where I've seen him like for so long, you know, with this crazy kind of like spiky hair, you know, looks like he just rolled out of beds.
[00:41:16] Speaker A: Kind of unkempt.
[00:41:18] Speaker D: Unkempt. Perfect.
[00:41:20] Speaker A: Fashionably unkempt.
[00:41:22] Speaker D: Yeah. You know, he's always wearing like, like a, like a blazer with like an untucked button down shirt with the tie.
I did see that in my research that he started off as, as a sound technician and started his, his label, fda.
[00:41:38] Speaker A: Dfa.
[00:41:39] Speaker D: Dfa. Dang it. Dfa. Recording bands.
Which makes sense because I mean, this, this album sounds great.
[00:41:47] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:41:48] Speaker D: Hearing this one, I talked about how, you know, listening to. Is this it? You can hear Franz Ferdinand, Kings of Leon. You know, you can hear, you can hear the future.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: By the way, there's nine people on stage. Like. Yeah, but they've said like, we're the best LCD sound system cover band. That's what we do. Meaning James is making all of this.
He's making the albums. They perform it with nine people. It takes nine people to make what he does live.
And he's not blasting out the speakers because he knows how to record songs that like, affect you and like change in volume like this instead of maxing out all the capacities. And it's exactly, it's, it, it is exactly. High fidelity made good.
It's. It's what, it's. John Cusack, remember the whole end of the movie in High Fidelity is like, I'm gonna start a reverse record label.
[00:42:54] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: That's what. So that's what James Murphy did is like, I, I'm a. I know everything about music. I know how they made those drums on, on Pet Sounds. I'm gonna make a studio and I'm gonna make the best records ever.
[00:43:05] Speaker D: You know what?
[00:43:05] Speaker A: I might, I might make one myself.
And boom. And like he got enough friends and then made his whole band and made this output.
It was influenced by, you know, Bowie.
[00:43:19] Speaker C: Fame.
[00:43:21] Speaker A: Like fame. You can hear it.
[00:43:22] Speaker D: Absolutely.
[00:43:22] Speaker A: So this is like long form disco. None of his songs are less than nine minutes long. This is glorious.
This is so groovy.
You're meant to listen to it for a long time. You're meant to dance to it. You're meant to vibe the hell out.
So I should probably tell you about seeing LCD Sciences. I'm live.
Jake.
[00:43:44] Speaker D: This is. This is one of your legends. This is.
[00:43:49] Speaker A: Well, I've seen them three or four times.
I've seen them in Austin recently. It was Halloween or something like that. It was raining. It rained. And I was like. I was like, were you there?
[00:44:02] Speaker D: Ringo? I went to see Ringo Starr that night.
[00:44:05] Speaker A: And I remember. Good choice.
Because I was like dancing in a foot of water and it was pretty miserable. And I took a party bus there and I got a girl's name wrong and she got really mad.
[00:44:17] Speaker D: Oh, no.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: But it was like a girl I've met before. I was like, hey, I'm Elliot. She's like.
I'm like, okay. And then was like the vibe was off the whole night. I wasn't like on a date with her. It's just like a party bus. All right, who was it?
[00:44:34] Speaker D: Do I know her?
[00:44:35] Speaker A: I forget her name.
But, but, but, but, but in New York, of course, I had seen lcd, like, you know, live, and it was just right. It's awesomeness. And I haven't told this story before.
[00:44:56] Speaker D: Not, I don't think on the pod. You've told the. The Daft Punk story with where you saw him at the baseball field with Becky.
But not, not this one.
[00:45:06] Speaker A: So El City says they're retiring quotes like retiring. And it's a big old deal. Everyone's bummed out about it. But there is now a string of shows, like seven shows, like six of them at this certain venue downtown or whatever.
Downtown in. In Manhattan. I'm like the.
The seventh. The final show will be at Madison Square goddamn Garden, like New York. Craigslist gave me $2,000.
[00:45:38] Speaker D: Damn.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: I'll give you. I'll give you nosebleeds for the LCD show because it was. It was the place to be.
Day of, I'm at brunch with my friend, my friend and beloved sister Becky.
And we're. I'm having a spicy potatoes and eggs.
I get it at my. And my, like my Nokia like flares up.
I'm like, oh, it's that. It's that girl.
Insert name here.
Like Shazam. Like unreal. And like Sami DJ or something. And like, and I don't even know how her phone ended up her phone number and ended up in my phone. Like, I have no idea how that happened. Like, I really don't know where I met this girl, but she goes, what are you doing tonight?
I said, I don't. I said, oh, no plans. By the way, this breakfast burrito is setting me back completely.
Like, meaning I. I am down to zero.
[00:46:47] Speaker D: I will. Like, I will never financially recover from this.
[00:46:54] Speaker A: Like, this was in, like, the same week where I. I borrowed a quarter from my sister so I could get a bar of soap and take a proper shower. Like, I was destitute.
And this girl texts me, and she's like, do you want to go see the LCD sound system show?
I'm like, yeah, I want to.
What do you mean? She's like, I have got tickets. I'm like, oh, that's so sweet that you would think of me. Like, holy shit. That's, like, gorgeous. Like. Like, not even kidding. Like, unbelievable. I'm like, that's really cool that you would think of me to invite or whatever, but, like, I can't afford that. She was on me.
Meet me at my bar. Like, what?
Like, she goes, meet me, Upper east side. I'll have our drive. My driver take us there.
Oh.
[00:47:49] Speaker D: So she was like. She worked for Julian Casablanca's father's modeling agency. She was.
[00:47:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it was something like that. Yeah. Like, oh, like, I put the phone down to my friend Becky. I'm like, she just invited me to lcd. Like, what do I do? She goes, no idea why? So I met. I meet her at her bar, Upper east side, like, later that day. And, like, sure enough, there she is. I'm like, are you playing a trick on me? She's like, no, my guy's outside. Let's go get him. And she has, like, this, like, a yellow cab, like, designated to her. Like, you don't. That's not, like, a thing that happens. It wasn't a black car. It was a yellow cab. But this guy only came to her, like, what is this?
So he picked us up. We drove immediately down. Like, we're driving towards, you know, middle of Manhattan.
She's getting text. She goes, they just started getting oculus, meaning the ban has started. And we get there, and it's. Right, It's. It's absolute mayhem.
Everyone's losing their minds. We're seeing the last LCD show.
I got one beer, and then the balloons fall at the end of New York, I love you, but you're bringing me down. And the Lights go up, and I was just blown away.
Wow. And she's like, okay, come with me. I'm like, okay.
And we get. I would go back down through the. You know, there's like, hockey. Concrete alleys, you know, down to the street. There's her good guy, her guys right there waiting for her. We get in there and we drape off towards Brooklyn. She leans her shoulder on. She leaves her head on my shoulder. I start coughing.
I get a little scratch in my throat.
And then she took me to her place and we had a lovely evening together.
And then I woke up, and my roommate Becky was like, how was last night?
[00:50:00] Speaker D: Where are you?
[00:50:01] Speaker A: I'm like, meet me right now. I've got the best start of all time.
[00:50:07] Speaker D: You're like, I'm now Mr. Kate Moss. Like, that's.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: Yeah, this is. It is. This is. And, like, that was like, a glorious, like, little, like, perfect New York magic moment. I think it's fantastic.
[00:50:32] Speaker D: As cliche as it might sound, there truly is something special about the city of New York. There's been songs and albums and movies and TV shows written and. And produced about it.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: There.
[00:50:45] Speaker D: There is. It's. You know, it's where families started their lives, you know? You know. You know, it's where band started.
So much has happened there, and.
And the love, the. The cynic love, the cynicism, the love for that city is. Is right there in both these albums. And I've talked about it before, you know, as someone who hasn't had the opportunity to visit New York, it seems like. Seems like Oz in a lot of ways, you know, like this.
This, you know, mythical city that I hope to one day explore for sure.
And being able to hear these albums through your ears, through your eyes, you know, you. Being able to, like, contextualize what was going on at the time in your. In your own experience, with your own experiences made it. Made it really cool. So if you haven't already, check out the Strokes. Is this it?
And LCD thought it was a C minus.
[00:51:52] Speaker A: And lcd, I did not.
[00:51:58] Speaker D: LCD sound system, Sounds of Silver For a taste of New York living.
Hey, stay sipping, stay sipping.
[00:52:09] Speaker C: That's how it starts.
We go back to your house, You check the charts.
And start to figure it out.
And if it's crowded, all the better because we know we're gonna be up late.
But if you're worried about the weather then you picked the wrong place to stay.
That's how it starts.
It comes apart.
The way it does impact films.
Except the part.
Where the moral kicks in.
Oh, you drop the first 10 years just as fast as you can and the next 10 people who are trying to be alive days.
When you're 85 days in the middle of friends. Yeah, I know it gets tired only where are your friends tonight?
To tell the truth.
This could be a last time.
So here we go.
Like the cells falls into the night.
And if I made a fool if I made a fool if I made a fool on the road there's always this.
And if I'm soon into submission I can still come home to this.
And with a face like a dad of a laughable stand you can sleep on the plane I'll review what you said? When you're drunk and the kids look impossibly dead you think over and over hey, I'm finally dead. I heard that trip and the flam come apart in your hand you can turn it on yourself you're ridiculous about it you forgot what you meant when you read what you said and yeah, we knew you were tired but then we're all friends tonight?
Where are your friends tonight?
Where are your friends tonight?
If I can see all my friends tonight If I can see all my friends tonight If I can see all my friends tonight If I can see all my friends Ra.