Dark Moses - The Postal Service vs Jenny Lewis

[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right. [00:00:01] Speaker B: And thank you for listening to. Sit. Hey, wait a second. [00:00:06] Speaker A: What? [00:00:07] Speaker B: Oh, welcome back. [00:00:09] Speaker A: Wait, we've been gone for a minute. [00:00:11] Speaker B: Hey, that's cause for cheers. [00:00:15] Speaker A: Hey, cheers, bro. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Cheers. Welcome back to Sif and Mimos, the Internet's premiere citrus space. But not holding ourselves to that libation podcast wherein your hosts Jake and Elliot takes take albums from artists from the radio rock and electronica genre and take a deep dive into them and appreciate them and, I don't know, walk away learning a little something new. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. Learning something new. Yeah, for sure. How are we doing? I don't need to reset. What were we talking about before we introduced the show? [00:01:09] Speaker B: Oh, cast iron skillets. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Cast iron skillets, right? It's fine. Everything's fine. I'll just say that as like, you know, someone that works with like cast iron skills. Like, relax. [00:01:25] Speaker B: Hey, man. [00:01:26] Speaker A: Hey. No, no, no, no, no. [00:01:29] Speaker B: It's a movement. [00:01:30] Speaker A: No, it's not. It's toxic masculinity at its worst. It's toxic cast iron skillity at its worst. [00:01:39] Speaker B: If you take care of that thing, it'll last a hundred years. [00:01:43] Speaker A: No, it's going to last 100 years with, with or without you. That's my point. Like, you don't have to keep coating it with fucking your special oil and like, sure, use soap. So it's fine. It's going to be fine. It's bulletproof. It's going to be fine. Oh, Jake hates this. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Jake, you hurt me right now. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Boil water in it, poke tomatoes in it. It's going to be fine. It's cast iron. It's going to be fine. [00:02:14] Speaker B: You have to get the power sander on there and buff that out and then. No, hit that with canola. [00:02:23] Speaker A: No, no. [00:02:25] Speaker B: I. I love my cast iron skillet. [00:02:28] Speaker A: What, what kind of cast iron you got? [00:02:30] Speaker B: My favorite is a lodge. [00:02:32] Speaker A: You gotta. You got a lodge? Yeah. Or loge even. I got a fine X, bro. Come at me. [00:02:38] Speaker B: A fine ass. [00:02:41] Speaker A: Oh, thank you for noticing. [00:02:44] Speaker B: An ass. An ass iron skill. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Oh, I think it's called fine X. Like it's got like a spiral handle and all that. That's like meant to like, not absorb the heat so you can like pick it up. But that's a hot as. It's got like a cool like, lid. I love it so much. I. I do adore my cast iron. [00:03:05] Speaker B: I. I like to blast it with. With high pressure water just from the. I say hike pressure. Like it. I'm making it sound like it's an intense thing just from you Pee on it. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. [00:03:21] Speaker B: That's. That's the special seasoning. [00:03:23] Speaker A: That's a high pressure water. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I like to do that. And then I have, like, a scraper, so no, nothing gets burnt on there. This is a new. A new segment on Sip and Mimo's cast iron. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Look, you. [00:03:41] Speaker B: You come over and I'll cook you something on my. My cast iron. [00:03:44] Speaker A: And I'll come over, I'll cook you something on mine. [00:03:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is me. [00:03:47] Speaker A: And this tastes like soap that I use on it. Do you have that weird cilantro thing? Do you have the thing? [00:03:57] Speaker B: I don't actually. [00:03:59] Speaker A: Good for you. [00:04:00] Speaker B: Do you have it? It tastes like soap for you. [00:04:03] Speaker A: No, I love cilantro. I'm waiting to see if the kid has it. We're going to find out. We're going to find out sooner than later. Oh, boy. [00:04:11] Speaker B: Oh, that's so interesting. I. That was something I learned within, like, the last, like, seven years. [00:04:20] Speaker A: I know. [00:04:20] Speaker B: That's a very specific amount of years. [00:04:23] Speaker A: That's when I learned about it, too. That's true. This is true. [00:04:28] Speaker B: But yeah, that's such an interesting. I remember I was freaking out because one time the coffee I was making had, like, this, like, weird, soapy, like, floral, almost like lavender. And I was like, coffee you made? Yeah. And I was like, did it have. [00:04:47] Speaker A: Like, coriander in it? [00:04:49] Speaker B: No, it was just like one of those, like, holiday blends, you know, like. [00:04:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I stay away from that. [00:04:54] Speaker B: But yeah, it was. It's like, I usually like the holiday blend. And then I realized that I didn't clean out the soap of my French press well enough. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Oh, well, that's not where we're talking about. [00:05:09] Speaker B: That's like. That's like. [00:05:11] Speaker A: That's not. [00:05:11] Speaker B: I thought I had mono for a year. Turns out. [00:05:14] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's this one time, it was Christmas morning and my mom made biscuits and I bit into one and I was like, oh, this tastes like soap. And I looked down, I was. Oh, actually, a bar of soap. Yeah, that was. That was the story you just told. [00:05:27] Speaker B: No, my story had layers. Elliot, have you seen, heard, tasted? I don't know all my senses, but what's been going on? [00:05:40] Speaker A: Oh, man. It's been a while since we recorded. I've seen a lot of stuff. Did you see Godzilla minus one? [00:05:46] Speaker B: I still haven't seen it, but it's funny you ask. I actually have been going back and I actually started a Godzilla re. Watch. I'm starting in, like, the 60s. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Whoa, you're gonna watch all the Godzillas. [00:06:00] Speaker B: I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna be a different man. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Next time you record, you might be a lizard man. That's a lot though, right? There's a lot. [00:06:09] Speaker B: Like 60 years worth of content. [00:06:13] Speaker A: It's the James Bond of giant lizards. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:16] Speaker A: There's a lot of movies, man. [00:06:20] Speaker B: I'm excited, though. The first one is. Is actually kind of. It's actually kind of creepy. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:26] Speaker B: Have you seen it? [00:06:28] Speaker A: Like, the. What year would that come out? [00:06:31] Speaker B: I think it's like the 50s. [00:06:33] Speaker A: So you're gonna watch, like, baby Godzilla and all that stuff? [00:06:36] Speaker B: Yeah, 1954. [00:06:39] Speaker A: 54. Do me a favor. Don't do that and just watch the Godzilla -1 so we can talk about it. It's bad. It's badass. [00:06:48] Speaker B: I needed to draw. I, I In between, like, my, my 50, my 1950s. And I, I started with the 2014 one also. That movie is so dark. Like, literally, like. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Oh, the, the one with Cranston. Cranston. Yeah. I, I kind of hated that one. [00:07:11] Speaker B: He. Godzilla's barely hit. It's weird. [00:07:15] Speaker A: I really, I remember really liking the trailer. I thought the trailer was cool when. [00:07:19] Speaker B: The doors close and Godzilla's screaming. [00:07:22] Speaker A: I went and saw Godzilla -1 with my brother Alex in 4DX. Have you ever seen a movie in 4DX? Dude? [00:07:30] Speaker B: No. I get motion sickness. [00:07:34] Speaker A: I. I essentially watched it on a sailboat. It was. We were laughing our asses off because, like, every time Godzilla shows up, we're the seat. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Okay. [00:07:50] Speaker A: For listeners, 40x is, like, when the chairs move and they, like, spew water at you and stuff like that. We went into a brand new room, all brand, like, pristine new 40x seats. And, like, we're, we're bouncing up and down when Godzilla shows up and we're, like, losing our minds or laughing so hard and, like, loving the movie because it's an important movie and the narrative is so good because, like, you actually care about, like, the people in the movie, the human story, which is, like, hard to do in a monster movie. But also, we couldn't fall asleep because the chairs would shake at the. As well. But, like, but I kept looking over and seeing, like, water misting on all these brand new chairs. And I'm like, is it this. This theater is going to get moldy real quick. And it won the Oscar for special effects because I think, because it cost, like, $16 million compared to, like, Guardians of the Galaxy 3, which costs like, 300 million. 300. [00:08:56] Speaker B: I was gonna say. Yeah. [00:08:57] Speaker A: And I was asking a friend, I'M like, how do they do that? How'd they do that? He's like this. Pay them less. Oh, no. That's kind of a bummer. It's a. It's a good flick. [00:09:10] Speaker B: Do you remember Godzilla 98 with Matthew Brad. [00:09:14] Speaker A: Matthew Barter again, when Godzilla is hiding in Manhattan. It's perfect. You know, it can hide anywhere. I'm like, no, it cannot. [00:09:24] Speaker B: He's hiding in, like, Madison. Madison Square Garden. [00:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah. It hides in MSG and, like, has puppies. It's so stupid. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:34] Speaker A: That movie sucks. They have, like, a Taco Bell tie in. [00:09:38] Speaker B: Yes. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Where you could get. Have you talked about this in the show before? I don't think so. I collected a bunch of the Godzilla cup holders where you would. There are couples where you would, like, hook them on to, like, your window of your car. And like, this Godzilla would be, like, wrapped around your cup. [00:09:55] Speaker B: That's pretty cool. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was very cool. So I had a few of those. [00:10:01] Speaker B: Were you ever a Pokemon guy? [00:10:03] Speaker A: No, not really. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Burger King had, like, these pokeballs, and if you open them, they had, like, gold Pokemon cards in them. They were so cool. But I was thinking fast food places. Like the toys they had in the. In like, the late 80s 90s. Unreal. [00:10:20] Speaker A: The. The Transformer, McDonald's toys that they had for a hot minute where, like, the hamburger would turn into, like, a. [00:10:29] Speaker B: Yes, yes. I remember this. [00:10:31] Speaker A: Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Those are. Those were very cool. I like this. I think it had a few of. [00:10:37] Speaker B: Those Arby's had these badass, like, little tin toys. [00:10:44] Speaker A: X Men. [00:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, just the cool. And they were the, you know, the Jim Lee X Men. My guys, they had those. And then probably the most iconic. They weren't. You didn't. Didn't come with, like, an action figure, but, like, when McDonald's had the Batman Forever. [00:11:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Coffee mugs or ice mugs. [00:11:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I was. Cups. Yeah. [00:11:08] Speaker B: God, that was cool. [00:11:09] Speaker A: But they had, like, Batman Returns toys. And then it was a big scandal because the movie is very dark. Well, yeah, yeah. And they were selling, like, toys and Happy Meal. And then the movie ends up being like a Moses, a dark Moses story about Penguin wanted wanting to kill all the firstborn sons of Gotham. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Oh. [00:11:31] Speaker A: It's not the choice I would have made for that story. [00:11:34] Speaker B: Wow. I never. I never made the. The Moses connection. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Yes. Moses. Well, they put them in a basket and some of them. River. Whoa, Jake. It's right there. Yeah. [00:11:46] Speaker B: How do you think of these things? [00:11:49] Speaker A: I'm I'm hyper intelligent. [00:11:52] Speaker B: You are. You're a very smart man. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Thanks, man. [00:11:57] Speaker B: Like I said in the intro, I always walk away like, whoa. I've seen Batman and Batman Returns. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Batman Returns is a story of Moses, a dark Moses story. [00:12:08] Speaker B: I've seen that movie 30 times in the last 30 years. [00:12:13] Speaker A: Well, you watch it annually. [00:12:16] Speaker B: That's when I return to. Well, as a kid. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Are you Batman return to it? [00:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, Batman returned to it. What? Well, I used to watch one a lot as a kid, I think, because Jack Nicholson's Joker scared me. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah? Yeah, Yeah. [00:12:31] Speaker B: I never like clowns. I was not always big on clowns, but. [00:12:35] Speaker A: No one likes clowns. It's a dumb thing. No. I imagine people in, like, the 20s didn't like clowns, or the 1800s didn't like clowns, but it was just, like, a thing that people did to terrorize children. [00:12:48] Speaker B: I was in a. I was in a parade, and I was riding in the back of a truck waving, you know, like one does in a parade. And I'll never forget a clown came and jumped on the back of the truck, and he was like. He was. He was, like, letting himself be dragged as he was trying to, like, hold on, being funny for the crowd. But for me in that truck, it was traumatizing. [00:13:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:13:14] Speaker B: And I remember, like, he. The thing I remember most in my head is so he fell. He fell off. Everyone laughs. I just remember there being white face paint on the back of the. The truck gate. Truck door. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Oh, my. That's so specific. Oh, my God. This is a vivid remember of yours. [00:13:35] Speaker B: And then, like, I have that seared into my head. So I've never, as I've grown up, I, I, you know, I. I learned to love and appreciate 89. But, yeah, Joker scared me. But talk about X Men. Have you checked out this X Men 97? Have you heard about that? [00:13:51] Speaker A: I haven't. I haven't. Have you heard about this? I haven't seen it yet. But of course, I grew up with that show. And it's. It's a cool idea, I think, to, like, bring it back. I've heard. I've heard it's awesome. And I've heard Cyclops is a badass. Yeah. And, like, I'm like, yes. Because I've always been like a kind of a, like, man. No one, no one likes Cyclops. Cyclops is kind of dope. Like, no one gets it. Like, he's just trying to hor all together. He's like, in the middle, child of the. And I'm like, hey, man, he just trying to pull it all together. [00:14:31] Speaker B: So were you. Were you a big fan of the 92 cartoon? [00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, the cartoon, for sure. Absolutely. I didn't stay with it all the way to the end when it got all crazy with the, you know, the. The Shia or whatever. But. But I watched that absolutely, like, as a Saturday morning thing. [00:14:50] Speaker B: Oh. [00:14:51] Speaker A: And. But I was, like, reading the books, too, and, like, at a certain point, I transitioned to, you know, the comic books, and it's like, read the. Out of them. [00:15:00] Speaker B: Elliot. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:03] Speaker B: I had to mail something the other day. [00:15:06] Speaker A: What? [00:15:06] Speaker B: I had to mail something. You know, I. I had to. You know, I sold something online and I was like, oh, I got. I gotta mail it. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Oh, okay. What. What did you meant as a bill? [00:15:17] Speaker B: Had to mail a pair of shoes. [00:15:19] Speaker A: A pair of shoes? Yeah. You know how people do that all the time? [00:15:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:15:24] Speaker A: It's so crazy how many times I've mailed used shoes. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Yep. On top of my cast iron obsession, I'm also a budding sneaker head. [00:15:34] Speaker A: I'm also wild about, you know, ordering worn shoes online. But, like, what, perhaps what? Like, I don't know, what kind of method of. Of shipment would you use to get those to get them kicks, bruh? [00:15:51] Speaker B: Well, you know, you need something reliable. Need something that's been there for most. [00:15:56] Speaker A: Of our lives, Something that Kevin Costner would still keep going after the apocalypse. [00:16:03] Speaker B: I love it. Yeah. So I think. I think. I think, yeah, I think I'm gonna have to go utilize the services of the postal service. [00:16:16] Speaker A: Will it be sad? [00:16:18] Speaker B: It'll be sad. There'll be blips. There's going to be halftime. Drums. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Will it be, like, oddly digitally hopeful? [00:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah. In the best. [00:16:35] Speaker A: I hope so. All right. Hey, here we go. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Sa. I am thinking it's this time but. [00:17:28] Speaker A: The freckles in our eyes are mirror. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Images and when we kiss, they're perfectly alive. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Jake, for my album, this. This episode, as we've reignited the show, I chose the Postal Service. Give up. This one came out.03. Yeah.02 or three. And I found it in college, of course, as one does, and it blew me away. I didn't know about Death Cab. I wasn't a big Death Cab guy. And Ben Gibbard is the vocalist, of course, for Postal Service. And this one, like, kind of shook me in a way that I wasn't ready for, because in all of our history on Mimos and like, all the albums I've given you, like, there's not really a lot of emotion like, there's like, some, like, excitement and, like, dance, and then there's, like, some aggression and, like, prodigy, like, stuff like that. And, like, we haven't had a vocal forward electronic pop album quite like this, and this one dropped and exploded and I think eclipsed Gibber's Death Cab work. When did you hear about this one? [00:18:58] Speaker B: Oh, man. Well, just to kind of add what you were saying, you know, so much of our electronic album albums, electronica albums. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:05] Speaker B: I think what makes them, what makes their. Their creator makes those artists masters is like the same, same thing that makes that made, like, Mozart, Beethoven masters, you know, like, the fact that they were able to create those emotions using samples, using synthesizers, using, you know, drum pads. You know, they, they, you know, they were able to, you know, to stir you with just these sounds on an album. This being our first, this is like a devastatingly emotional electronic album. And we'll get, we'll get there, but it's also a devastatingly emotional lyric album. It might be. [00:19:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:51] Speaker B: One of, One of our. I mean, Ben Gibbert is unreal. I. As a, As a lyricist, but, yeah, I, I first heard of the Postal Service. I was in jazz band my freshman year of high school. [00:20:07] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:08] Speaker B: And I had a friend to, who introduced me to a lot of really great music. And he brought in a copy of Death Cabs, Trans Transatlantic Fantasism. [00:20:21] Speaker A: The one with. [00:20:21] Speaker B: The one with the crow on the front. [00:20:23] Speaker A: The crow, yeah. [00:20:25] Speaker B: And then this album. And at this time, I was super into punk rock. I was, you know, fast. Distorted guitars, kind of getting into, like, heavier stuff, kind of screamo. And I remember they said, oh, you got. You gotta check this out. He put on, you know, Districts He Flown Tonight. Hated it. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Oh. [00:20:47] Speaker B: I was like, I don't get this. I don't get it. You know, I was so 2,000. I was, you know, 15 years old. Oh. You know, and I was like, I don't like this. The, the keyboard sound weird. You know, like. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:04] Speaker B: I did not connect with it at all. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Wow. [00:21:08] Speaker B: It wasn't until my senior year of high school. It was a rainy day in December. I'll never forget. It was pouring. And I was driving. I was driving to go see a friend, and this song came on my ipod shuffle. I, I. And this, it was the same song. District Sleeps Alone Tonight. And it hit me like a ton of bricks. [00:21:38] Speaker A: I was like, whoa. [00:21:44] Speaker B: And so that was 2006, and so 18 years ago now. And I adored this album ever since. All right, so you connect. You can. You connected with. Give up Right away. [00:21:59] Speaker A: I can't say with it immediately. But you. You came around to it. [00:22:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. I think I had to. I think I had to mature a little bit, you know? [00:22:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I think that this is. This is a Time and Place album. [00:22:13] Speaker B: Oh. Yeah. [00:22:15] Speaker A: I was playing it today while leaving my apartment, like, moving out of my apartment. The District sleeps alone tonight. You seem so out of context in this gaudy apartment complex. Oh, gosh. And I'm like, what the fuck just happened? You know? But of course, you know, I found this in college and it blew everyone's mind. But that's right. It's right there. Like, there's something this is about. It's about loneliness, honestly. Because we should. We should mention it's called the Postal service because Gibbert, Ben Gibbert and Jimmy Timarillo like, mailed each other the tracks and sounds and then maybe made the album through mail. [00:23:03] Speaker B: My, my. I mean, mind blowing even today. [00:23:05] Speaker A: I mean, they were never in the same room. [00:23:08] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Isn't it wild? Like. Yeah, of course it sounds like. Well, you could do that over zoom, I suppose, couldn't you? We're in 2024, but this is like, you know, O2. So, like, yeah, they. They're milling each other like data tapes and like, and CDs and all that. Here's a track I have been working on. Here are the stems. What do you think? Why? Think it sounds like loneliness? I'm gonna write a poem about loneliness and this apartment building. And then they just do it and they lay it down and like, you can hear Ben's closet. You can hear it. You can hear his coat hangers rattling in the distance. It's amazing. So it's a very, like, lo fi, like, low tech production, and yet it is so full and beautiful. And this one's stuck with me for a long time. I put on a lot of these tracks on, you know, DJ mixes and all that. This is like a very, like, you know, monumental album in my college years and all that. I think it's glorious. [00:24:14] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh, it's a. It's a masterpiece. Yeah, and that's. I don't think that's a word we. We've thrown around too often on this show. But it's a masterpiece, you know, lyrically, musically. Jimmy Tambrello, he just crafted these oftentimes kind of like jagged compositions, you know, like where you're like, you're listening. And I was like, okay, it's like a real nice song. But then all of a sudden, Sudden it'll be like a, like a scratch or something, you know, or like a, like a blip just kind of like popping in, you know, it just. I, I, I heard. I've listened to this album for, like, I said, 18 years now, and listening to it today, you know, before we recorded, I was noticing things that I hadn't noticed before. Oh, it's just, it's just wonderful. Probably the biggest song on Give up is such great heights. [00:25:03] Speaker A: If you say so. I think they're all pretty wild. [00:25:10] Speaker B: But yes, I say biggest, maybe. Like, I should, I rather, I should say commercially successful. [00:25:17] Speaker A: Are you gonna talk about Garden State? [00:25:20] Speaker B: Garden State. See, I, I didn't connect with Garden State when I saw it. I know it's iconic. Iconic. Portman. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Your apartment fan. [00:25:31] Speaker B: I love it. [00:25:32] Speaker A: She's, She's Portman fan. [00:25:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Portman fan. No, but it, it was on Grey's Anatomy, like, that first season and so introduced a lot of people to this band. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Is this a Moby Play situation where, like, these mo. These songs were, like, licensed to a lot of other stuff? [00:25:54] Speaker B: I don't, I, I don't know if I heard any other ones. The same way we heard, we heard Play, which, by the way, GC Mobi's doing play anniversary shows in Europe, I'm sure. [00:26:07] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah, I think I did. [00:26:09] Speaker B: Not in America, which I was kind of bummed about. [00:26:12] Speaker A: But also, like, what, what would that show look like? You know what I mean? What would it look like? What is he doing? [00:26:21] Speaker B: I can only dream. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Okay. I just don't think I'm not too enticed or. Orbital is touring with their first two original albums, and I'm like, I'd rather see that. [00:26:35] Speaker B: But, yeah, only doing Miami, New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles. [00:26:42] Speaker A: No, no flyover states for Orbital. Thanks a lot, but no, I, you. [00:26:47] Speaker B: Know, I, I love the, I love the lyrics in that. I love. [00:26:53] Speaker A: Calm down now. Yeah. [00:26:56] Speaker B: Say, he says, like, I'm thinking it's a sign that the freckles in our eyes. Yeah, perfect. [00:27:03] Speaker A: Mirror each other mirrored images and when. [00:27:05] Speaker B: We kiss they're perfectly aligned. Like what? [00:27:08] Speaker A: Perfectly aligned, frankly, Will not fly. [00:27:12] Speaker B: You will hear the skies and the lowest lows with the windows down and this is driving you home. What? [00:27:19] Speaker A: Like, just profound with a capital P. That's gorgeous. I was listening to Give up on my speaker outside, and my buddy Max comes over and it's like an electro pop guy. Like, this should be his. This should be his garlic and onion, you know, this should be his, like, first ingredients. He's like, A passion pet guy. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Okay. [00:27:42] Speaker A: So. And I always. We were listening to Give up, and he's like, I don't like this one. It gives me the icks. He says. I'm like, why? He's like, I don't know why. And so he stood there and listened to it for, like, a long time. He's like, I don't know why I don't like this. I'm like, you're the first person to never tell me they don't like this problem. I'm like, is it because it's, like, sad? Blink182 sad sped up to 150 bpm or whatever. He's like, no, no, no. I'm like, is it the production? Is the production, like, really simple and like. Like, very basic? Like, he's like, no, that's not it. That's not it. Perhaps it's just, like, the messaging of everything. Maybe, like. Like the loneliness and like, the. Anywhere we go. I miss you all the time. Is that what you. Is that what you don't like about this pan? He goes, no. I go, I think you like the postal service man. And I think you're wrong about your own opinion. Like, he just clearly likes it. He can't think of a reason he doesn't. [00:28:48] Speaker B: So after postal service, did you return to Death Cab eventually? [00:28:52] Speaker A: I did. In fact, I actually really like Ghost Topics. [00:28:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:56] Speaker A: And that's. And then into, you know, artists like, you know, Connor Oberst, Bright Eyes. [00:29:03] Speaker B: So. So, like, while, you know, while the post service is famously, you know, two dudes, Gilbert Tamberillo, it also features two female vocalists that just adds so much texture and emotion to these albums, to this album. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Truth. [00:29:25] Speaker B: One of them, who I don't think is actually our next artist, sings on Nothing Better. I think it's actually Jen Wood. [00:29:35] Speaker A: I was trying to figure this out too, because I think there's a couple guests on Give up, and I couldn't figure it out. But there's one of. There is one we know of. [00:29:45] Speaker B: Wait, which one? [00:29:46] Speaker A: Well, Jenny Lewis. [00:29:47] Speaker B: And it just gets more and more. [00:29:49] Speaker A: It's a big old 10 out of 10 for me, man. [00:29:53] Speaker B: As. As the album goes on, it starts getting more and more, I would say, experimental. Like, by the time you get to, like, give up brand new colony. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Oh, man. Or give up a brand new colony. They're talking about Read not getting the world or not. That's. That's beautiful. [00:30:10] Speaker B: Natural Anthem. Like, I remember. I remember someone putting on Natural Anthem at, like, a house party in college. [00:30:16] Speaker A: And I remember necessarily Party music. But I love it. [00:30:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it was it. It came on and I remember just like listening to it being like this is making me feel something right now, you know? Like, it's just. Yeah, it's so good. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Wow. But beautiful. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Are you cold? Can I offer you something? [00:30:37] Speaker B: I'm kind of cold. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Are you really? I guess it is, yeah. We do have a brain Risk air. May I offer you a rabbit for coat? [00:30:47] Speaker B: Why, yes, you can. Here we go. [00:31:12] Speaker A: Well, you praise him Then you thank. [00:31:15] Speaker B: Him Till you reach the by and. [00:31:19] Speaker A: By and I've won hundreds at the track But I'm not bettin on the afterlife Then you kiss his lips he forgives you for it he forgives you. [00:31:33] Speaker B: For all you've done but not me. I'm still angry. [00:31:44] Speaker A: Jake. Take it away. But I fucking love this album. I love Bully's album so much. They hit me right when I needed them to. I don't know how. How did Jenny Lewis Rabbit Fur Coat come across my plate? But it sure did and it's lost my mind. [00:32:02] Speaker B: I'm right there with you. I don't know how I. How I stumbled on this record. [00:32:08] Speaker A: How did this become like a big old hit? Like, okay, so it's 06, right? [00:32:12] Speaker B: It's January 2006. I just celebrated its 18 year anniversary. [00:32:18] Speaker A: Okay. And it's like an. An a Equally unassuming album like Give Up. But it became kind of a big old hit, at least in my headphones. I think at this point I was like so deep into listening to. Listening to everything. I listened to everything. I was kind of obsessive. This one really shook me because it is a story. It's a portrait of this woman's life of being a child star. Yeah. And her mom taking it away because all she is worth is a rabbit fur coat. She finds these two twins, the Watson twins, who are able to perfectly harmonize. Just a glorious recording. I think it's fantastic. I think it's fucking fantastic. [00:33:13] Speaker B: It's killer. This album just sounds cool. It sounds sexy. It sounds just so fresh, you know, it's almost, you know, 20 years old. But it. It's just so new. I love it. I. Yeah, I heard. I first heard Jenny Lewis. I was already living in Austin and I was working at a grocery store. It was probably. Probably sometime around 2011, 2012. And I heard Rabbit Fur Coat and I. So I used to work the morning shift. I might. I've probably talked about this before, but I used to work the morning shift. So I would get up at 4 in the morning and get to my. Get to my store at five. I work five to one every day in a cooler. It was cold, you know, and. And I would have my headphones on and I. I probably listened to Rabbit Fur Coat. I can't even tell you how many times on repeat. Something about Jenny's voice on this record made me feel hopeful. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Made me feel like, you know, hey. [00:34:41] Speaker B: There, you know, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get out of this freezer, you know, and, you know, good things are gonna come my way, you know? She sang with such hope, such sadness, such desperation. Such beauty in all these songs. And humor, too. The story she tells, or I think they're. You said it best, like, you know, like it's a story of a, you know, child actor. You know, there's some humor, there's sadness, there's like, fringe, you know, there's triumph. I love it. Just. I love it. It's so good. [00:35:21] Speaker A: Yeah, It's a gorgeous portrait. [00:35:24] Speaker B: Are you familiar with any Jane Lew's acting work? [00:35:28] Speaker A: Have I seen the Wizard? [00:35:31] Speaker B: No, but I know that's the. That's one of her. That's like one of her iconic ones. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Jake just set up a. Huh? Said Jake just set up in his chair. [00:35:41] Speaker B: I so pumped. [00:35:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's the movie where they revealed Mario Brothers 3. [00:35:48] Speaker B: Oh, the power Glove. [00:35:49] Speaker A: I love the Power Glove glove. [00:35:52] Speaker B: Did you have a Power Glove? No, I didn't even know that was a real thing. I thought it was just like the Power Glove. [00:35:57] Speaker A: You didn't know the Power Glove was a real thing? Oh, the Power Glove is a real thing? [00:36:01] Speaker B: It was. [00:36:02] Speaker A: What are you talking about? Wait, wait, really? [00:36:04] Speaker B: Wait? [00:36:05] Speaker A: You didn't know the Power Glove was a real thing? [00:36:07] Speaker B: No, I thought it was like. I thought it was one of the things where, like, they made it for the movie and then tried to make it happen in real life, but it failed. [00:36:13] Speaker A: Oh, no, Power Glove is a real thing. You can get a Power Glove. This is very late 80s, like, where you put on a glove and essentially you just had a Nintendo controller on your. On your hand. But it sure looked cool. I feel really old. I feel so old. [00:36:36] Speaker B: I remember her from Troop Beverly Hills with Shelly Long from Brady Bunch. [00:36:45] Speaker A: Oh. [00:36:48] Speaker B: I remember her from that. And then I. I looked it up. She's in. She's in our favorite movie, Pleasant. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I. I don't. Our favorite movie, Pleasantville. [00:37:00] Speaker B: She plays one of, like, Reese with Reese Witherspoon's like, like, edgy friends. They're like, smoking and she Has a scene with Giovanni Ribisi's sister. [00:37:11] Speaker A: Cool. [00:37:12] Speaker B: Good. Hey. Hey. This is the content you come to the show for. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I. I kind of find Jenny Lewis to be deeply attractive. Was she, like, an early crush for you? [00:37:25] Speaker B: No, I don't. I wouldn't say that. [00:37:30] Speaker A: Jake doesn't like the redheads. She successfully, like, started a music career without, like, having that involved, you know, like, oh, that's that girl for that thing. Because, like, she wasn't, like, she wasn't Macaulay Culkin or whatever, like, but, like, but her parents did her over big time, so she has a lot of stories to tell and so that she turned that into song. And. And God bless her, her songs are beautiful. And that's why you have Rabbit for coat, the album, and Minnie after. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Did you. Did you ever listen to any of her. Her first band? Rylo, Kylie. [00:38:08] Speaker A: Oh, right. I don't. I'm not. I'm not. Oddly enough, I'm not as familiar with Riley Kylie as Janet's solo stuff, but I understand that the guitar player or bass player is the guy from hey dude. [00:38:27] Speaker B: Really? I know. He's a. Another. A fellow child actor. [00:38:32] Speaker A: Yeah, he's from hey dude, do you remember hey dude, of course. With Christine Taylor and the redhead boy from Terminator 2. [00:38:44] Speaker B: No. He was in Salute your Shorts, but Nick. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Oh, you're right. Oh, my God, now I feel old. Wait, wait, wait. Am I getting him all next up? [00:38:55] Speaker B: Well, they were kind of like the same. It was like. One was like a dude ranch. One was like a summer camp. Well, Salute Shorts had bud Nick, and. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Donkey lips. [00:39:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:11] Speaker B: Oh, my God. He was the cool dude on Salute your Shorts. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Boom. Whoa. [00:39:19] Speaker B: I know. Never knew that. [00:39:21] Speaker A: Is that neat? [00:39:22] Speaker B: Wow. [00:39:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:25] Speaker B: That just blew my mind. [00:39:27] Speaker A: I. From what I understand, they have, like, an understanding with each other, from what I understand. And they had like, a similar going up. Like, hey, you're also like a little child actor. Like, probably got around by your folks, probably get sold and bought a few times over. And then like, how about we just turn this trauma into some cool ass art and we make something beautiful? And that's kind of what I think what Reverend Furcoat is about. We turn trauma into something beautiful. [00:40:02] Speaker B: Absolutely. I also really wasn't really well versed in Rilo Kiley, so I listened to some Today Day and, man, that's into. [00:40:17] Speaker A: Into it. [00:40:17] Speaker B: Good stuff. I'm. I'm excited because I have a whole new Avenue of Jenny Lewis material that I can listen to and discover. [00:40:31] Speaker A: What. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Songs on Rabbit Fur Coat Stand out to you. [00:40:35] Speaker A: I sampled Run Devil Run and like a mixtape of mine and they threw it in the background like, where it's like reverbed out to all hel. So I really like that one. And like these Watson twins, these twins that are like weird and like can harmonize with anything, are amazing. Res it with fists is pretty good. Oh my God, are you kidding me? And of course, Robert Kot, like, the story ends there. And then we have Handle With Care. What do you think about Handle With Care? It's a cover. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's so. It's so interesting. I. So I. I was listening to it today and I've heard this album so many times and I, I guess I just glossed over the fact that there's like a stone cold Traveling Wilberries. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Traveling Wilberries, Yeah, I remember I was. [00:41:33] Speaker B: Listening to it and I was just like. And granted, like, I think my ears a little bit more sharp in my mid-30s. [00:41:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, okay. [00:41:43] Speaker B: I'm listening to it. I'm just like, huh, this sounds like a Tom Petty song. And they started singing. I was like, hold on. This sounds a lot like a Tom Petty song. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Well, that's so crazy because I was listening to it. My mom. Oh, just outside today, she. And she's like, she goes, goes, this is a Tom Petty song. I'm like, well, listen to J. Lewis. She. No, this is Tom. I'm like, like, oh, I think you mean it's a Traveling Wilberry song. She's like, elliot, shut the up. Listen to the jangly guitars. Like, I'm like, yeah, you're right. So Tom Petty kind of run that super group this is now around on this album. This song is pretty great and it features a lot of lovely people. [00:42:38] Speaker B: So this is a cover of the Traveling Wilbury song Handle With Care. [00:42:45] Speaker A: Yes. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Traveling Wilbur, if you're not familiar, was a super groove. The late, great Roy Orbison, Jeff L. Electric Light Orchestra. The late, great George Harrison from little, little underground band you might have heard of from Liverpool. [00:43:04] Speaker A: I'll look them up. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah, look him up. [00:43:07] Speaker A: I'll Google it. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Jeff Lynn. George Harrison. Oh, Bob Dylan. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Who? [00:43:13] Speaker B: Bob Dylan. [00:43:14] Speaker A: Oh, I think it's pronounced. Timothy Chalame. [00:43:17] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. And then the late, great Tom Petty. [00:43:22] Speaker A: Yeah, so. And that sounds great, right? [00:43:25] Speaker B: Oh, killer. Tom Petty had that. He played what. What your mom was referencing is a 12 string Rickenbacher that Tom Petty played because he adored and idolized Roger McGuin and the Birds and he popularized that 12 scene. [00:43:41] Speaker A: Rick and Bo soccer. [00:43:43] Speaker B: It's like, it's, it's, it's so great. You go back and listen to those Early Bird records and you can just get like the blueprint for Tom Petty. Oh, I love it. I love rock music history. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Do you like this cover? [00:43:58] Speaker B: Very good cover. [00:43:59] Speaker A: Why did they do it? [00:44:01] Speaker B: Well, I think, I think Tom Petty is so. Even though he, he was born in Gainesville. Gainesville, Florida. Yeah, Florida. Florida. I think he became so synonymous with Los Angeles because that was his chosen home, you know. Jenny Lewis, I think is. Oh, an artist in that same thing. Just so synonymous with the city of Los Angeles. I think it was. May have been an homage. I think that this album pushes the boundaries of pop, rock and country. Something that, like, she really dabbled with her entire music career. And I think Tom Petty did the same thing. I think it was a really great fit. It kind of, it kind of sticks out of the album. [00:44:59] Speaker A: Well, that's what I'm asking about it. Like why I put this on. Yeah, like, because it's a round, right? Everyone gets a turn. Everyone gets to turn to sing a verse and all that. Everyone gets a verse like, like. So Jenny Lewis, the Watson twins, all of a sudden becomes asterisk, except for this one tune where they do a super group cover where they're comparing themselves now to some of the greatest rock artists of all time. Like, why? [00:45:31] Speaker B: Because, I mean, so the other, the other people feature on the song is M. Ward, who produced the album. [00:45:37] Speaker A: He's like, yeah, he would go fantastic to do sh. [00:45:40] Speaker B: With Zoe. [00:45:45] Speaker A: Zoe. An award. Yeah, fantastic. [00:45:47] Speaker B: Actually married to Ben Gibbon for a little while, period. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Oh, I love that. Yeah, that's true. [00:45:52] Speaker B: And Ben Gibbert, because Jenny Lewis loves, strikes me as an artist that likes to have fun and oh yeah, she had all these indie powerhouses in the studio and probably said, let's do this. I wonder if they, like, we were in the same studio that. [00:46:18] Speaker A: I bet, I bet they were all hanging out, sipping the muscles. [00:46:26] Speaker B: Have you ever seen Postal Service or Jenny Moose? [00:46:30] Speaker A: I have not. I would go see it, you know, of course, but I never got the chance to. But it's such a precious thing to me. [00:46:39] Speaker B: Give Up. [00:46:39] Speaker A: And also, also, also Jenny Lewis, river fur coat. Have you ever seen Poster Service Live? [00:46:49] Speaker B: I have. I saw them on the 10 year anniversary of Give Up. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:56] Speaker B: In Cedar Park, Texas and Jenny Lewis was there. [00:47:02] Speaker A: Oh my goodness. [00:47:04] Speaker B: She's saying the. She sang the parts on Nothing Better. So I think I should interject here, you know. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:47:18] Speaker B: And yeah, you know, seeing shows over the years. There's things that stick out from each one. I love. I love going to see concerts, and I've been fortunate enough to see some really cool ones. I don't remember everything, you know, just because, you know, natural, you know. But I will never forget how the crowd, like, went crazy after she started singing. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Oh, my God, she. [00:47:49] Speaker B: And I remember, of course, Ben Gibbard was rocking out, too, and. But they lost it when. When Jenny Lewis sang that part. It was really, really, really cool. Yeah, I've actually. [00:48:02] Speaker A: That's very cool. [00:48:03] Speaker B: I've actually seen Jenny Lewis, like, three times. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Oh. [00:48:09] Speaker B: First time was at Green hall in New Braunfels, Texas. No. [00:48:12] Speaker A: You know, you didn't see a Green Hall. Yeah. [00:48:15] Speaker B: No, no. We'll post some pictures. [00:48:17] Speaker A: Stop it. But I was like, that's like a humble, but like a famous venue. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Yeah. If you're not familiar, it's one of the oldest dance halls in Texas. [00:48:27] Speaker A: Yeah. That's so cool. Are you serious? [00:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Oh, my God. So mad. [00:48:33] Speaker B: Just about the front row. And I'll never forget, she was. She sang and she was playing guitar. I'm sorry. She was playing piano. And she was just smiling at, like, the girls in the front row. Like, she was like. Because they were losing their minds. And. Yeah, she loved it. She was, like, smiling and, like, singing to them. And I. I just thought, this is. This is insane. And then. [00:49:01] Speaker A: Did she mention me? [00:49:04] Speaker B: I think I didn't want to bring it up. Right before. Right before she. Right before she launched into an unreleased song. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Just. Just say no. What's the song called? [00:49:21] Speaker B: Brown Haired Handsome Stranger. [00:49:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. She said, like, that could be you, bro. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Hey. I said hair. She said, this one goes out. This one goes out to a guy I met in a Brooklyn bodega. [00:49:43] Speaker A: Oh. Huh. [00:49:44] Speaker B: And I said, I know who this is about. I know who this is about. The reason I picked Janet is because she holds probably. Probably more than any other artist, holds a really special place in my heart because she's actually. She's actually the first concert that my wife and I went to together when we started dating. [00:50:11] Speaker A: Fantastic, Fantastic. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Friend of the show, Anna Veneer, posted a thing to win tickets when she was touring on on the Line, which is a killer. Like, we. We didn't really talk about her other. Other albums. We kind of talked about Rylo, Kylie stuff. But, man, go check out. If you haven't, check out on the Line, the voyager and acid tongue she had. She put one out last year called Joy, y'all. I haven't listened to it, but man, she's crazy. And so Anna Veneer posted comment on this post to win tickets and a copy of Jenny Lewis new album on the line. And I commented, and I won. [00:50:50] Speaker A: What the. Are you serious? [00:50:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:52] Speaker A: I thought those things never work. You got tickets to Jenny Lewis? [00:50:58] Speaker B: Got tickets. And I got a album on blue vinyl. And we just started dating. And. And, I mean, Jenny Lewis just started dating. And I had terrible allergies. And I texted my. She wasn't even my girlfriend yet. I said, hey, do you want to go see Jenny Lewis? And she was. She hadn't listened to a ton of her. Wasn't really familiar. And she said, yeah. And we went. The Watson twins were actually there with them with her that night. It was a really special night. I'm glad I have that memory. That's one that Michael's just talking about memories, you know? [00:51:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:51:39] Speaker B: That's one I think will always stick with me. It was really cool, that one perfect day on. What is it in Wayne's World too. And he's like, that one perfect day. [00:51:53] Speaker A: I. I was just gonna let you go for a minute. I don't know. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I was just waxing right there. [00:52:00] Speaker A: No, I liked it. I liked it. Are we okay? [00:52:03] Speaker B: I'm good. I. I just. Like, I texted Elliot earlier, but, you know, listening to these albums and going back and listening to, like, Rylo, Kylie stuff and Voyager, Jenny Lewis is like my favorite female vocalist. I love her voice. It's great. And you can tell she's. She's. She's like. [00:52:22] Speaker A: You can hear it. [00:52:23] Speaker B: She's got some drama in her voice. Like, she just. [00:52:26] Speaker A: Something happened to this girl, but you can hear it. [00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but. And it's probably the way I've been, you know, talking the last five minutes, it's probably no mystery, but. Got both of them. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Jake is revealing his vinyl copies of both albums we talked about tonight. I have Give up. It's on a cool, like, red vinyl and. Which I don't. [00:52:54] Speaker B: The loser version. [00:52:56] Speaker A: Yeah, the loser version. [00:52:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:59] Speaker A: Is that what it's called? [00:53:01] Speaker B: So we. We left it off, but Give up was get. Give up came out on Sub Pop, the legendary Seattle record label that put out Nirvana first album, Mud Honey. I think Sound Garden was on there for a little bit too, when they released their, like, special edition, like, like, like color vinyl version. It's called. Yeah. Loser version. [00:53:28] Speaker A: Okay, well, I have the loser version. Thanks a lot, Jake. [00:53:32] Speaker B: I. I thought. [00:53:33] Speaker A: I literally thought for like, 10 years, whatever, dude. [00:53:37] Speaker B: That I had the loser version. Like, I put. [00:53:39] Speaker A: I heard what you said no, I heard what you said. Are you calling me a loser? [00:53:43] Speaker B: No, I'm saying it's very cool. You have this Vinyl Postal Service 2003. Literally, we talked about Passion Pit, but like, literally open the door for this, like, indie, indie electronic pop that was everywhere for much of like the mid aughts. If you, if you're familiar with Owl City, you know, hugely popular electronica pop band from like the 2000 and tens, look no further than the Postal Service. Once you're done there, check out Rabbit for a Coat. It's. It's beautiful, it's heartbreaking, it's funny, and it's. It's sung by my favorite female vocalist, hands down. [00:54:31] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:54:34] Speaker B: So I think, I think we did it, Elliot. [00:54:36] Speaker A: Yeah. What, what, what, what? [00:54:39] Speaker B: Do you have anything on deck for. For next episode? [00:54:42] Speaker A: Yep. [00:54:43] Speaker B: Hit me. [00:54:47] Speaker A: If a bunch of music nerds started a band and they were like, hey, we're post, post, post, post, post, post. Everything were posted music, they would be probably. They'd probably be called LCD Sound System. [00:55:06] Speaker B: Welcome to the show. [00:55:09] Speaker A: So I submit to you James Murphy, 2007's Sound of Silver by LCD Sound System. I think you're going to dig it. [00:55:23] Speaker B: Well, I know I just pulled up on Spotify and I already have a couple songs already hearted on there. I'm sure you do a couple of these. I know. Make an appearance and have made an appearance in your. Couple of your DJ sets. [00:55:38] Speaker A: I've seen. Oh, all right. [00:55:41] Speaker B: I like this. Okay. So normally, you know, if you've been following Sip Mimos, oftentimes Elliot will recommend an album to complement my rock album. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I like. I like following you. [00:55:57] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's season four. All the rules are out the door. So true. I'm gonna follow Elliot's footsteps and I'm gonna. So, Elsie Sound System, a band synonym. A little city on the east coast called Nuevo York, AKA the Big Apple, AKA the Student Never Sleeps. [00:56:25] Speaker A: I'm not familiar. [00:56:27] Speaker B: You're not familiar. New York City, a city that has long mystified me and as our listeners can probably, will probably testify, I mean it. It's a city that is so foreign to me, so magical, I just cannot wrap my head around it. Elliot earlier said, it's a. It's a grid system. I have no idea what that means. [00:56:55] Speaker A: Oh, like, okay, well, we'll talk about it. Maybe. [00:56:58] Speaker B: I thought he was talking about Tron. I'll say. Okay, but so I'm gonna do a New York band. Okay. As well. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Love it. [00:57:12] Speaker B: This band kind of led the. I Don't want to say garage rock, but led the guitar rock revolution of the early 2000s. [00:57:26] Speaker A: Okay. [00:57:27] Speaker B: And there have been. We've kind of been circling for a while. Another one. I. I like talking about the 2000s album because I just like. With Postal Service, I remember where I was the first time I heard. I've heard a lot of these albums, and I remember exactly where I was when I first heard the Strokes. This is it off. [00:57:58] Speaker A: This is it. Oh, my God. All right. We're going full on New York hipster with it. I love it. I feel like I can talk about it. The Strokes, dude. [00:58:11] Speaker B: New York, New York. I've got a gun. Let's go to a Broadway show. [00:58:20] Speaker A: I got tickets to a Broadway show. Hi, mark. [00:58:26] Speaker B: This is 2001. Yeah, 2001's this is. Is this it? I've pronounced this is it for, like, almost over 20 years. But that's the Michael Jackson documentary. Check out Sunday. And of course, last night. This is a really quick listen. 11 songs, 35 minutes, according to Spotify. I'm excited to dive into the Strokes, bro. It's. They're. It's a. It's a really interesting history of this band. Julian. [00:58:57] Speaker A: Boys, I'm. I'm a big fan. Are you a big fan of LCD Scientism? [00:59:05] Speaker B: The songs I've heard, I. I really enjoy. Just say no. [00:59:11] Speaker A: Tell me everything you know about LCD right now. [00:59:14] Speaker B: I know James Murphy is the guy. I know he's no punk rocker. Yeah, and Daft Punk played at his house one time. [00:59:29] Speaker A: No, but he does have a song about it. That's. That's fantastic. Perfect. Perfection. All right. I think we did it. [00:59:39] Speaker B: All right, dude. Well, we did it. Check out Janie Lewis. Check out post service. Your life will be richer because of it. Yes. And thanks for checking out Sipping Mimos. This is such a fun project that, you know, Elliot and I started, you know, four years ago now. So this is season four. Thanks for. Thanks for finding us. Thanks for giving us a listen and just. Yeah, thank. Thanks for everything. Give us a follow on wherever you subscribe to podcast. We're on Instagram, Sipping at Tipping Mimos podcast. Elliot posts, find some really funny memes and stuff, and he reposts on there. And maybe we'll post some of those Jenny Lewis and I'll dig up my postal service shows, too. We're posting, posting, posting over here also. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Like, if you're a fan and you see me in public, just like, leave me be. I get it. You're a fan. Like, just. But. But like, you know, I'm just like, come on. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah, stay sipping, y'all. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Stay sipping. [01:00:45] Speaker B: I'll catch you next time, dude. [01:00:47] Speaker A: Later, bro.