Knob Tweakers - Fatboy Slim vs Alice In Chains

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Well, all right. Well, welcome back to Sipping Mimos. [00:00:07] Speaker B: Hey, bro. Hey. Oh, wait, we gotta do the cheers thing first. [00:00:10] Speaker A: Oh, oh, that's right. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Best intro ever. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Hey. Well, hey, cheers. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Cheers, bud. Clink. What you got there, by the way? [00:00:32] Speaker A: I am drinking. Not an ad. Old Forester. Straight Kentucky bourbon whiskey. [00:00:39] Speaker B: Wow. We were just chatting on bourbon off mic, I guess. And then. Can I see the. Oh, okay. What was the bottle there? Okay. Old Forester. Okay. Wow. What's your. What's your fave? [00:00:53] Speaker A: So if any. Any bourbon connoisseurs are listening, they might roll your eyes at this one. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Evan Williams. [00:01:05] Speaker A: I'm a really big fan of the Metallica whiskey blackened. I really, really enjoy that stuff. The gimmick is it's like it's mastered, quote unquote, in its barrels to very low frequency recordings of Metallica songs. [00:01:25] Speaker B: No, it's not. [00:01:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:01:31] Speaker B: That's ridiculous. Is that like one of those things where they're like. Oh, the quantum, you know, thing where they play like, you know, music to plants and then like, it grows better and like, then if you scream like I hate you at a plant. [00:01:45] Speaker A: I. I think so. I think has something to do with like the vibration of like the. The. The barrels infuses the flavor a little more. [00:01:54] Speaker B: Huh. You don't have to. [00:01:59] Speaker A: Whatever it is, Whatever it. Whatever it does the trick. [00:02:03] Speaker B: That's. [00:02:04] Speaker A: That's like my. That's my go to whiskey. And then if we're talking bourbons, I really like. I really like. We were talking about the Still Austin, the cast. [00:02:15] Speaker B: Strength. Yes. [00:02:17] Speaker A: And big fan of the. It's kind of a staple. The Four Roses. Really good stuff. [00:02:25] Speaker B: If you were to. As many celebrities do. And we're podcast celebrities, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Thanks, Ted, for listening. If you were to like, know, like pull a Clooney or a Ryan Reynolds, like, and like have your own brand. Like, would it be a whiskey or a bourbon? [00:02:44] Speaker A: I would like to. I'd like to have like a. Like a line of. Of bourbons. I would call it. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah. What would you call it? Oh, boy. [00:02:53] Speaker A: I would call swerving bourbon. I like that. Okay. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Why. [00:03:03] Speaker A: Okay, why? [00:03:06] Speaker B: You have to drive on it. You have to drink it and then drive. It's the only way to do it. [00:03:14] Speaker A: No, I would call it actually. I don't know. [00:03:17] Speaker B: I don't. This might be a bad idea. But like, you know what? My. The. The Elliott drink is a vodka soda, lime juice. If I could like, get like lime infused vodka going, maybe that would taste rancid because, like, of the rinds and all that. I'm driving, someone said, picturing in my head, and I've got that fucking bucket right here where I can make it happen. But Elliot. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Elliot, now the proud owner of a. Of a still. [00:03:40] Speaker B: So I have a still. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna kill myself by making alcohol. What a way to go, though. It's my fate. I mean, he died doing what he loved. Oh. But, like. But if. But if we had something together, like I said, the memo thing, it would have to be like, a mosa, I suppose, right? Yeah. [00:03:57] Speaker A: You know, I have to be like, mimosa bourbon. [00:04:01] Speaker B: Oh. The big craze right now is the seltzer thing. So, like, if I can do, like, a vodka seltzer lime thing. I mean, I don't know, but if we. If we did something, I would rather it be a cool whiskey. [00:04:15] Speaker A: Right? [00:04:15] Speaker B: I mean, that's waiver. That's way cooler than. Than a mimosa in a bottle. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Like a sip. Like a sip of Mimos. Like, exclusive type whiskey. I love that. [00:04:27] Speaker B: Well, yeah, it'd be a whiskey called Sipping Mimos, which is that. Which. Which is as. As confusing as our podcast name, because we don't talk about mimosas. We talk about 90s music. So, like, oh, I love a mimosa. Like, oh, wait, this is whiskey. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Okay, Okay, I got. Okay, I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. Okay. Oh, man. I got it. Okay. [00:04:49] Speaker B: Okay, go. [00:04:50] Speaker A: What? So Clooney's Tequila is Casa Amigos okay. Or something like that. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. [00:05:00] Speaker A: For our Sipping Mimos exclusive bourbon. It's gonna. We're gonna be Casa Mibro. Casa me bros. [00:05:11] Speaker B: Casa Mimos. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Casamimos. There it is. [00:05:14] Speaker B: House of Mimos. Yeah. Hey, our Spawn episode dropped. Hey. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about that. [00:05:23] Speaker A: So the. Ellie and I recorded a total banger of us of an episode last Halloween. [00:05:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Forever. [00:05:32] Speaker A: 1997'S Spawn. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Spawn. [00:05:35] Speaker A: I started thinking it was like, a cursed episode. Like, it was something in the. Something in the Internet waves were just. Did not want that thing on the Internet. [00:05:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:48] Speaker A: But thanks to our fearless technical leader, Elliot, he resurrected it. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Did I just cut it for a fourth time? Honestly? And I. [00:05:58] Speaker A: You did a tech. [00:05:59] Speaker B: What? [00:06:00] Speaker A: You did a technical exorcism and brought it back from the dead. Oh, technical exorcism. That's our DJ name. Come on. [00:06:09] Speaker B: And awoke a year later, just like Spawn. Just like Al Simmons. And the episode's like, oh, my God, My Wife is remarried. [00:06:21] Speaker A: I realized to record it last year. This year was actually the 25th anniversary of Spawn. [00:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:29] Speaker A: Kind of worked out really, really nice. My voice is a lot higher in that episode, you know. You know, I've got hair in really weird places, you know. [00:06:40] Speaker B: Well, yeah, kind of a lot's happened since we recorded that show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:06:45] Speaker A: A couple weeks ago, I had the great pleasure of having Elliot and some really close friends take part in my bachelor party. [00:06:54] Speaker B: That's right. [00:06:55] Speaker A: And my sister, who is my best. My best woman maid of honor slash maid of honor. And so she just. You know, as. As anyone that meets this guy. I fell in love with Elliot. And we did a great. Did a great Sopranos theme. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Yes. It was a blast. [00:07:18] Speaker A: The whole. You know, and, you know, I try to do a. I try to do a Tony Soprano, but I think it sounds. It ends up sounding like a certain form of president. And my sister always roasts me for it. And we're talking with Elliot, and he goes, so did my Tony Soprano. And she's like, that's. That so. Doesn't sound like him. And Elliot just drops this, like, badass New Jersey accent. And Bonnie was like, oh, my. Bonnie's my sister. She's just like, oh, my God. That sounds just like him. I'm just like, I'm out of here. I'm. [00:07:56] Speaker B: No, I did it. Yeah. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Now Elliot showed up just like poly walnuts. For fans of the. For fans of the Sopranos and. [00:08:05] Speaker B: Is that how it was? I. I borrowed a starter jacket from my neighbor with, like, the stripes on the arms. I thought it looks cool. Yeah, it was fun. It was fun as shit. What a. What a lovely day. That was a great evening. Yeah. Truly. You have a great team behind you. Man, oh, man. What good. What good dudes. [00:08:24] Speaker A: Very fortunate. And it really was a wonderful time. And just I realized, like, everyone there. All my guys were, are. I have the strongest connection with them in one way or another, based on mutual, like, love of music and pop culture, you know, and having everything there. I was just like, oh, wow. Like, it's so neat that I've been able to connect with these, you know, this, like, really wonderful group of guys over almost 20 years now. Some. Some of them over just, like, talking about music. And even now, you know, like, we have a show based on our mutual love of music and. And pop culture and everything. It's just. It's been a really great time of my life, and I'm really. I've been really enjoying it. [00:09:14] Speaker B: That's excellent. We should mention that Jake's getting married in like 17 days. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Gentle listener. We're actually recording this at the reception. We got a live audience going. [00:09:26] Speaker B: No, no. Yeah, everyone's waiting at the altar and we're just, we're just gonna take a. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Couple hours to talk about cocktail hour. The big day is a little over two weeks away and I cannot wait is. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel nervous. I feel nervous. [00:09:44] Speaker A: I'm just, I'm feeling ready. I'm. [00:09:46] Speaker B: Oh, I love that. It's the perfect fucking answer. Yes. Wow. Beautiful. That's all, that's, that's lovely. [00:09:54] Speaker A: But, but on top of, on top of preparing for nuptials and introducing new friends and old friends and. [00:10:03] Speaker B: World's colliding. Yeah. [00:10:06] Speaker A: World's colliding. [00:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Ellie and I have actually had the chance to see a lot of really awesome live music events the past month or so. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Yeah, we've been, we've been going out and about, man. October has been pretty wild for me as of this record. October, while mostly Jake's bachelor party month, it was also my 40th birthday and like, and cheers. Cheers. It's just like 39, but just more back pain and I'm just tired all the time. But we, we've, we've been out and about, we've seen some shows. It seems to be. I, I know I have more than previous because, well, you know, there was a couple years there where like, nothing was going on and we're all just like, oh, inside holding our dicks and listening to sipping memos, I imagine. And then, and then all of a sudden like, let's go nuts. And then this month, I, I, we, we both have been to some cool shows. [00:11:06] Speaker A: You've been hitting up a new venue that I'd never heard of in Austin. [00:11:11] Speaker B: You're referring to Concourse. [00:11:13] Speaker A: Concourse. [00:11:14] Speaker B: And I went there and saw Net Sky. Net sky is a drum and bass producer that I've been into for quite some time. He's on the label called House Hospital and they make kind of like house and jazz influenced drum bass. So it's closer to what you might call liquid drum and bass than it is to like, like hardcore like tech step, you know, like you're, you're playing a lot of drums and stuff like that. You know what I'm talking about to listeners. Jake doesn't know what I'm talking about, but it's like real, it's sort of real smooth and jazzy and like uplifting and beautiful and all this. And seeing Netsuy, I went with a couple friends. It Was a. It was a GD blast. We had a great time. And he played this one, this one B side that me and my neighbor friend adore. We've been listening to at pool parties for years now called Eyes Closed Guy. Listeners just pause the podcast and look up net sky, Eyes Closed. And it's just this beautiful fucking tune. It's so cool. And it's just like this driving, kind of beautiful, melodic jam. And we were like, how can we get him to. How can we make sure he plays that? Like, should we make a banner? Should we make a sign? But he just played it anyways. And we were losing our minds. We were hugging, we were crying. It was fucking phenomenal. So nuts Guy was great. Jk, what have you seen? [00:12:43] Speaker A: I've been very lucky to see some really awesome shows since last time. We recorded all. Mainly bands that I have never actually seen before, um, and that I've wanted to see for a really long time. And so the first one was Iron Maiden, which was phenomenal. [00:13:05] Speaker B: Wait, you've seen Iron man before though, have you not? I feel like we talked about it on the show. [00:13:09] Speaker A: I saw Judas Priest. Oh, Iron Maiden. They're part of the new wave of British heavy metal, which was really fantastic. It was like this new. It was like, think like punk. Punk, fast punk beats combined with heavy metal virtuosity and riffing. And so Iron Maiden got to see them. It was great. It was like. It was a. It was a show. It was theatrical, it was operatic. There was a 10 foot tall British red coat that came out with the sword and tried to fight the lead singer. There was lead singer. Bruce Dickinson had like flamethrowers on his arms. So while he was. He was shooting flames at the audience. It was just. [00:13:53] Speaker B: Sure, you still got your eyebrows. So that tells me you had bad seats. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I was in the nosebleeds. This past weekend we got to see Sir Elton John. [00:14:06] Speaker B: That's okay. That's okay. This is crazy. I saw your Instagram. Like you guys dressed up and stuff. [00:14:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:13] Speaker B: It looks so cool. Tell us about it. [00:14:15] Speaker A: So my fiance and I, we've kind of have like this like, theme going every Halloween where we dress up as musicians. Our first Halloween, we went as Axl and Slash. Our second one, we went as Will ferrell and Rachel McAdams from Eurovision. Last year we were the Ramones, and this year we were kind of like, what do we want to be? You know, we haven't really seen anyone, you know, because there weren't really a lot of shows and I was just like, let's beat Elton John, you know? You know, because, you know, there's so many iconic looks and she's the best. So she was just like, let's do it. So she was good. Goodbye, Yellow Brick Road. Elton John. She wore the pink, pink bomber with his name across the back. And I was Dodger Stadium, 1975. Elton John, if I'm not mistaken. So I wore a onesie with sequins head to toe with, like a sequin baseball cap. According to, like, the measurements on the website, I am a medium. They sent me a super medium, I'll say that. [00:15:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:20] Speaker A: So I was. I was very much like in my seat. Like, I can't. If I. If I move my arms too much, this thing's going. But besides that, it was. It was wonderful. He was. He was everything I could have imagined he would be. He was great. It was a great show. [00:15:39] Speaker B: You're catching, like, these legacy acts. Yeah. Is this honestly his farewell tour? Come on. [00:15:44] Speaker A: The way he actually said something, he was actually getting us all misty eyed. He was like, My first show in Texas was in Houston in 1971. My first show in San Antonio was the next night in 1971. In my career, I played Texas 81 times and tonight will be my last. And he was like, thank you for supporting me all these years, but I miss my family. I cannot travel anymore. I miss them, so I'm going to be with them and thank you for understanding. [00:16:21] Speaker B: And everyone was like, oh, my God, that's amazing. [00:16:26] Speaker A: So. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Oh, wow, Elton. [00:16:28] Speaker A: That guy. That guy is music, you know? [00:16:32] Speaker B: Yeah. By the way, welcome to Sip and Mimos. This is a podcast where Jake and I. Oh, yeah. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Hey, this is the longest intro in show. [00:16:43] Speaker B: This is a show where Jake and I talk about 90s radio, rock and electronica and comparison. Also beverages sometimes. I've also seen some shows recently. I saw. I had like a ladies night with some lady friends of mine. We went and saw Lizzo. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Tell me about this. [00:17:01] Speaker B: We saw Lizzo at the Moody center. This new, like, new fucking Giganto Arena. It was fun as hell. She had like three costume changes. She was so fun. And she's like, yeah. And like, there was like a thing, like. And it was like, there's like a thing on, like, the screens. I was like, hey, if it's your birthday, text this to this number and Lizzo might bring you on stage. So it was my 40th, right. So I text this. I text. I'm like. I text Lizzo. I'm like, lizzo, I'm a fan. It's my 40th birthday, I send it. And then nothing happened. She brought someone else on stage. [00:17:44] Speaker A: But. [00:17:44] Speaker B: We had a great time. It's thick 30 but you know, I don't know that that it's about damn time track is like my song of the summer. I think it's so fucking great. Anyways, that was fun. And then before that I saw, I saw Pendulum DJ here in Austin. Pendulum is a talking about. If we have another 2000s episode number one with a bullet. I'm going to make you listen to Pendulum cause I think he might dig it. And these are Australian drum based group and it was fun but they, they went on, it was like a DJ thing. And I went to Kingdom here in Austin, like the New Kingdom which is like just strobe lights and, and loud, loud, loud. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Kingdom is one of those like more well known electronic venues, huh? [00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Videos is like a low ceiling kind of like underground kind of vibe, you know. And like just like. So the bass bands just like rattle your fucking sternum. I was really feeling my age that night because I've seen him before and it was l hornet I think DJing and one of the, one of the guys from Pendulum and I'm a fan and I was there with my squad. Lizzo was my ladies night. This is my bros Night Pendulum. Yeah. And like at a certain point like I think it was like 1:30, I just like stepped outside for a cigarette and I was like, no, I'm done. And I just like caught all that and just left. It's bounced on everyone, I guess I was like, no, I'm done. And I felt my age. But I have seen some fun shows this month. But then you saw like a legacy act. Like what was, what's the big takeaway from that? [00:19:29] Speaker A: There was a lot to unpack, you know. And I think a part of me still kind of is, you know, because it's. It's like someone whose music has been a part of so many people has been part of my life forever. And just to hear it and see it played live was really special. At one point, at one point during the night he did. He was playing I'm Still Standing. [00:19:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:52] Speaker A: And they were showing videos of him throughout his career. You know, reading his biography and you know, you realize he really suffered a lot. But yeah, but now he's happily married and has two children and he's retiring to spend time with them. And at one point during the night I looked over at my fiance and I said, you know, Elton's come a long way, baby here we go Right about now Defunct soul brother Check it out now Defunk soul brother Right about. [00:20:29] Speaker B: Now Defunk soul brother Check it out. [00:20:32] Speaker A: Now the funk soul rubber Right about now the funk soul rubber Check it. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Out now the funk soul rubber Right about now the funk soul rubber Right. [00:20:44] Speaker A: About now welcome back. Yeah, I'm Jake. And you got Elliot on the line too. [00:21:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm also here. Hey, man, can you play that one song I like? [00:21:06] Speaker A: Oh, you mean that Rockefeller? No, no. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Yeah, check it out now. So here we go. [00:21:20] Speaker A: I've heard. I've heard the Rockefeller Skank. When did it. 97, 98. 98. Okay, so 24 years now. I've heard the Rockefeller Skank has been a part of my life. And I. I talked about it last episode, you know how. And I'll probably touch on it again, but I've never heard that intro to it, which is really, really neat. [00:21:42] Speaker B: Oh, is this your first time listening to the album all the way? [00:21:45] Speaker A: Yeah, all the way through, yeah. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Okay, so there's a lot of hype for this one. And I've been racking my brain because I had had better living through chemistry, which we talked about on our previous Fat Boy Slim episode, which is his first album. And there's a lot of cool synths and cool guitar samples and loops and stuff like that. And this one was something that was hyped. He was being. Becoming a big old deal. Norman Cook, AKA Fatboy Slim. It was like this is next level stuff. Like he is like taking the electronic and dance music genre and like making it palatable. I would say. Like he. He intentionally designed this whole album to be radio ready and a lot of electronic dance music. It's just a beat and we're moving and we're moving forward and we're crescendoing and we're breaking. And then we build up again and we drop. He's going verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, verse, chorus. Like he wanted these pop sensibilities, this pop music sensibility in it. He's modeling these songs like actual Beatles tunes and shit like that. Like they don't. They don't have to be too long. He's like, we're gonna have a little build up. We're gonna have a. We're gonna have the verse and we're gonna have a chance chorus. And always, always a lick. Like a tasty, tasty lick where. Like the, you know, the good part where everyone's dancing, having a good time. And then this album dropped and I knew about it before it dropped, which is, I think, the first time I ever remembered really being excited for an album to be available. And I remember my first girlfriend got it for me. She, like, went to Sam Goody. Think she works there. You remember Sam Goody at the mall? [00:23:37] Speaker A: Rip Sam Goody. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Oh, FYE. All these, you know, overpriced 300% markups on CDs and stuff like that. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Virgin Records. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, But I got the. Got the cd. And she's like. She's like, hey. Just so you know, I listened to it and one of these early tracks is like, we cannot play it in front of your dad. Because we were. She gave it to me when we were driving to youth group, like, to our church. [00:24:10] Speaker A: I think I know the track, of course. [00:24:13] Speaker B: Yeah, you can imagine. Track three In Heaven. And she's like, this one track we just had to skip over or so I kept like, of course. Like, I was like. We had to listen to this immediately. We popped it in, and right here, right now, like, opens up the album and it's brilliant. It's fucking brilliant. Norman Cook said he got inspiration from Massive Attack from this song. Because, like, he's like, what makes Massive Attacks Unfinished Sympathy? This, like, classic tune. What gets a massive attack? It's on my list, I promise. [00:24:51] Speaker A: That's the one with the beetle. I know it's. That one's been on, like. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's on. That's mezzanine with a beetle on the front. But he's like, what made this song so great? It's the strings. Adidas song with strings he made right here, right now. And it's still, to this day, like, just crushes. That's. That's track number one. Track number two is the Rockefeller Skin. Legendary right about now. The Funk Soul Brain Brother. Check it out. Now, I sent Jake earlier. Did you listen to it? The. The. The Sliced Tomatoes or whatever? There was a record that Norman Cook liked to like to DJ out. He liked to play it in the middle of his sets. And it's like, stopped everything and played this, like, surf rock tune. Kind of like, you know, Tarantino, me. Surf rock kind of shit. But, like, the. The. The tempo is, like, way off, so it makes Rockefeller skink. It's. It's 160 bpm. That's a very odd tempo to have for a dance tune, which makes rockfar skank almost impossible to DJ with. But it's also a absolute classic. It was a huge tune, Big old hit. Every single song on this album is a big old hit. It Just became this fucking amazing album. I've listened to it probably more than most albums ever, really. I know it inside and out. [00:26:11] Speaker A: So you listen to this one more than, like, homework or. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. [00:26:15] Speaker A: Wow. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I would say so. When this. When this dropped out, I became obsessed with it. Fab Sim became my guy. I'm like, this is it. This is the sound I've been looking for, man. Like, Back to the Future style. Get a load of this, you know, like, yeah, it's your cousin. And I just kind of fell in love with this idea. We're like, oh, man. This is, like, everything I want. This is bombastic. This is big beat. This is big old drums. This is fun. It's silly. And, like, you put any one of these tunes on at a party and people are having a good old time. This is Fat Boy Slims. You've come a long way, baby. Jake, what did you think? [00:26:59] Speaker A: Oh, man. So I think when we talked about the Fat of the Land by the Prodigy, if I didn't, I should have. You know, a lot of our artists, like, when we came, we started off like Daft Punk. Okay? I knew Daft Punk. Like, I. I'd heard, you know, around the World and one more time, they were, like, on my. On my radar. But some of our artists, like Orbital or like Underworld, like, these guys I hadn't heard of. Fatboy Slim is, I would probably say, next to Daft Punk. No, because I hadn't listened to a Daft Punk album. I had listened to Fat of the Land a lot because my cousin had it. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Aren't cousins the best? So Fatboy Slim. So I can't say I listened to you've Come a Long Way, Baby, the album. But that being said, I listened to the two singles off this album because they were on mix 96.1, like the pop radio station in San Antonio in the late 90s. And so much so that my. My God brothers so raised Catholic. And so I had Godbrothers that my parents had baptized. Godbrothers, God sisters. We. We would call them. We would call each other Funk Soul Brother after Fat Boy Slim, because we write a Bob now Funk Soul Brother. And we would just be like Funk Soul Brother, you know, Like. Because we just loved listening to the Rockefeller Skink, you know? And it came out on she's all that Freddie Prinz. I think Usher was the DJ of the High school in that movie. [00:28:53] Speaker B: That was one of those movies where the nerdy girl takes off her glasses and she's hot. Yeah. Is that right? [00:28:58] Speaker A: Kissed Me by Sixpence on the Rich Kiss Me. [00:29:03] Speaker B: All right. [00:29:04] Speaker A: And so I remember that. And yeah, and so it was always on Rockville, saying on the radio. But the one I think that I like as, as, as like someone in his 30s really, really appreciates is Praise youe. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Yep. [00:29:20] Speaker A: Really special song. Oh, man. Man. Elliot showing that he has a copy of oh, it's Praise youe. Oh, it's a single. Oh man. I saw, I saw a copy of, of you've Come A Long Way at, At our favorite record store here in Austin. And I saw it and I was like, oh man, I'll wait till next time. And I should have pulled the trigger because I'm kicking myself. Yeah. This was such a treat to listen to. I really, really enjoyed. I'm Totally Drawn by Living Better. Living through Better Living Through Chemistry. [00:29:59] Speaker B: Chemistry, which is his first album we've talked about pretty early on. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Yeah, you hear a lot. And when you, when you say like he was starting to craft songs, it makes sense because like I remember hearing like Praise you for instance, on, on the radio and being like, oh, and trying to like my young brain trying to figure out like, okay, so what's the piano playing? Okay, and who's. Where are they singing? What's the guy guitar doing? Like, oh, what's the, what are the drums out? In my mind I was thinking this was a four piece band. [00:30:33] Speaker B: You know, when Fat by Slim first arrived in the US After Benedict Chemistry, most people going to see him thought it was a band. Well, I hear guitars, I hear bases, I hear all this. And like. And then they were surprised to see it was a dj. Something about the name Fat Boy Slim doesn't read as, you know, oh, mild mannered, you know, British man. And, and. But there he is. [00:31:07] Speaker A: It's almost like, like that band the Spin Doctors, you know, it's like a, like a, like a random kind of like Spin Doctors, you know, Fat Boy Slim. Like you think it's like a. I don't know, like, I, I literally thought they were a band. And I remember being early on, like being told like, oh yeah, that the Rockefeller Skank, the funk soul Brother song is the same band. People. I remember people calling them band Same band as Praise you. I'm just like, well, hold on. Like. But the guy singing in Rockefeller Skank doesn't sound anything like the guy singing and Praise You. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Like, I remember I went and saw the Skin Doctors and I asked for my money back when I, when I asked to see their medical degree. [00:31:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Hey, in my defense, I was 10. [00:31:54] Speaker B: Oh, I'm not. I'm not giving you a hard time. [00:31:57] Speaker A: I'm saying no. And then I saw. And I saw Norman Cook and I said, he's not. He's very slim. What is this? You know. [00:32:06] Speaker B: Oh, ever since. On a slim. Slim boy. Fat. That doesn't sound quite right. Yeah, yeah. He. He said people. People thought he was, you know, black. He had a real hard time because. Well, something about the name. And I'm not quite sure how he came up with that, but. But the name, that's the one that took. He's gone by many names. Money, Dub, Cats and like, all these different. Pizza man. He used to be called, like, a bunch of different. When he started putting out remixes. So it all starts with remixes. He was in a bunch of punk bands. Norman Cook is in a bunch of punk bands. As a kid, he was in, like, a pop band, the oh Boy House Martins. For a minute, he was. He's a bass player. He's a bass player. Which gave him a little one up on the sampling thing because he would make sure everything's in key. He. He's mentioned that, like, he's like, watch a lot of DJs sample things and loop things and they're all out of key. And it would mention to them like, hey, that's out of key. Like, like. What. What's a key? What do you mean? I put the vocals over this other beat and like, it's. It's fine. He's like, no, no, it's. It's. It's salting my eardrums because they're out of key. But he knows how to make music from, like, the ground up. So, like, it. It enabled him to start sampling and, like, doing all these wild things. And he starts compiling and compiling and making these things. But he would start making these tunes and he would play them out at his own club in a place called Brighton, which is an hour outside of Lund. It's on the coast, it's on the beach. He had a club he was like a partner in called the Big Beat Boutique. I love that. And. Well, that's where we get the name Big Beat as a genre is because of this location. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Really. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Yes. There's a place in Chicago called the Warehouse. Way back in the day, that's how we would get house music. And there's a place in Brighton, England, called the Big Beat Boutique. That's where we get Big Beat. [00:34:13] Speaker A: Wow. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Yes. Correct. Yes. Yes. [00:34:17] Speaker A: How we've been going at this three years we've Never touched on the origin of these names. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Well, I just wanted to close some synapses today because it's a special episode. It's the. It's the. You've come a long way, baby. And we've come a long way, maybe. Haven't we, Jake? So it's time we close these loops. Yeah. Hard, hard, hard. So. So on the day of your wedding, I thought I would reveal it to. [00:34:42] Speaker A: You. [00:34:47] Speaker B: Ladies and gentlemen. He's here. He's been sitting in the corner all night. Like, that's where big beat, like, the name comes from. Yeah, he's in these. He's best buddies with the Chemical Brothers. Like, they go on holiday. They call it vacation together and all that. Like, back in the day and all that. They would exchange, like, techniques and stuff like that. So. And, like, that's where, you know, when. When. Dig your hole. Dig your own hole jobs. Like. Like, there's. There's a big beat block. Record beats and all this. So they got those ideas from Fat Boy and there's a lot of in. In like, love island and acid 8000 orever, like, on this album. Like, there's a lot of like. Like repetitive, like. Like echoing kind of psychedelia in it. And. And they got that. He got that from the chems. And, like, so they're exchanging ideas and. And like, he. He just. He just bunkered up in his little studio with, like, no interruptions and created this album. I think it's fucking fantastic. He goes. He was from punk and he heard about her, but he heard about hip hop. And then hip hop became electro. And his big guys were, like, number one, the Clash. Big fan of the Clash. And then he heard Grandmaster Flash do things with records where he would, you know, elongate the breaks of records. Like the. The drum solos, essentially, and, like, so embassies can. Rap breakers can dance to an infinite amount of time. And he's like, okay, we can. You could loop things. Loops. Done. Got it. And then, like, he heard Giorgio Moroder, like, making like, these, like, electronic disco stuff. And then he's like, okay. He's like, got it. But, like, the. The. The funk and rock stuff, like, influence is. Is there. He wasn't. He's not a big techno dude. He's not a big, like. You know what they call four on the floor. Meaning, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He's like. Like. He's not Richie Haughton, you know, He's. He is. He is Norman Cook. He wants this to be fucking ridiculous and funny and he likes that boom, boom, boom. And he wants that big old beat and, like, in silliness and fun, he just wants to make people happy. And that's where this is. This is the apex of Fat Boy Slim. You've come a long way, baby. This is perfection. He nailed it. And this is Big Beat. And this is Fat Boy Slim at his, like, at his absolute Fat Boy Slimmiest. [00:37:22] Speaker A: I. I agree. And this was a total, like, treat to listen to. And just the. The artwork. Do you know if. If that is his collection? [00:37:32] Speaker B: So. So the album or the COVID it's gone through a few iterations. And the one I had, I imagine if you bought it when you're a kid, when you were a zygote and I was driving you to school and babysitting you, this is a bunch of records. It's just a bunch of records, like, lined up. Which is actually a photo of Norman's collection. Yeah. But beyond that, there's, like a. There's, like, lighter notes that show his studio, and it's a very humble, little, tiny, like, just cabinet little cubbyhole, you know, an Atari sequencer and all this. And, like, in the Heat is just. And like, a shitload of floppy disks or. What are the ones with the hard shells? Are those called floppies? And the other ones are called, like. You know what I'm talking about. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:38:25] Speaker B: To. To Millennials. It's what your save button looks like. Yeah, those things. Yeah. So he had a bunch of, like, samples on those things, and then he started just, like, messing around with them, like, putting them over each other, and he made this whole album. It's. I think it's. I think it's incredible. [00:38:41] Speaker A: No, this. This was. This is fantastic. Yeah, but no, this was. This is wonderful. I really, really enjoyed the first. The first taste of Fat Boy Sumigot and knowing that this one was kind of like the Jaws dorsal fin, you know, Kind of like. I know it was out there in the waters, and I was like. Like, I was waiting for it to bite me, man. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:39:07] Speaker A: So getting to listen to this one, getting to actually listen to the whole album, like I said, those two singles were so massive in my life, and I have such great memories of listening to those songs. But going. Being able to, like, listen to this album, there's some really, really great stuff on there. There's like, some, like, almost like. Like, Tribe Called Quest. Quest kind of like beats in Gangster Trip. I really, really like that one. [00:39:34] Speaker B: Yep. [00:39:37] Speaker A: And then the one that was the one that really caught Me by surprise. I remember you just a second ago. You said, like, he's not a big synth guy. And I remember that. But when I heard Acid 8000, I was kind of like, this is throwing me for a loop right now. This. This is something like that I would expect from like, Daft Punk or maybe even the Chemical Bros. But I don't know. It was. So he's using a synthesizer on this one. [00:40:05] Speaker B: It's a 303. It's a 303. It'S a rolling 303. I believe on Better Likely Chemistry, there's a song called Everyone. Everybody needs a 303. Everybody in the 303 is where the acid comes in, which is like we talked about, about Josh Wink on the Spawn episode, which is like the. And like Chris the Method does a lot like. It's like the adjusting cut off and threshold. Like he goes a little ape shape with the. This is the album. That's the album closer, right? Yeah. With the knobs. He's tweaking the knobs, maybe. [00:40:42] Speaker A: What do you. What are your thoughts on Knob Tweaker? I know. Having said that, I know there's a lot of, like, ways that. That can sound. [00:40:55] Speaker B: I'm not sure what. There's, I think triple quadruple even entendres. What do you mean? Like. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Like DJs that. I think like a modern one. And I could. I'm shooting in the dark, but just watching his life from forms, like Skrillex, he's always manipulating his. [00:41:16] Speaker B: Like his board knobs. [00:41:19] Speaker A: He's tweaking those knobs. Like, what are your. [00:41:22] Speaker B: When you. [00:41:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's tweaking those knobs. When you play live, do you. Do you ever try to manipulate those. Those things or. [00:41:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, on a DJ main mixing board, there's a. Okay, so you have. You have. You have turntable one, turntable two. And then the mixer is like, you know, two. Two volume sliders and then one crossfader in between. You could cut in between the two of them. And then the three knobs above are high, mid, low. There is essentially just equalizers, but they might be a little bit stronger than your stereo. Like, they'll just turn off the kick drum completely or the bass line. And you need to know how to use those if you want to mix in. Probably because you can't have two kick drums hitting at the same time because it'll sound like shoes in a dryer. And they'll clump and they'll smash together and clash. [00:42:18] Speaker A: I know we spent a lot of Time talking about the two hits on this one. And I think it's just because you. [00:42:25] Speaker B: Say two hits, but that feels offensive to me, honestly. There's jams on this album, okay? [00:42:33] Speaker A: Mainstream radio hits. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Every single track on here has been, like, in a movie or. Or a truck commercial. I know I joke about it a lot with my guys sometimes, but like, this. This album was designed for radio play with the first course. First course thing and like, the. The limited amount of time and. And like, they. They licensed the shit out of these tracks, and I think Norman made a pretty good paycheck. [00:43:03] Speaker A: This. This kind of, like, set the stage for Moby's play next year, in the following year. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Absol. Goddamn. Lutely. Yeah. Which we'll get to. [00:43:12] Speaker A: I didn't know that. [00:43:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:43:15] Speaker A: And when I say, like, the two hits, I don't mean to diminish the. The influence or, like the. [00:43:21] Speaker B: You've already said it and it's out there now. I can't say. Stop thinking about it. [00:43:24] Speaker A: You know what I mean? To, like, the casual listener like myself in 1998 or. Or, you know, this morning going into it, I was like, okay. I knew I had these two songs. They've, you know, been in my life for so long. But no, this was. There was so much here. And I think his drum sound. His drum sounds might be my favorite drum sounds of any artists you've introduced me to. [00:43:52] Speaker B: Mm. Yeah. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Might be the big beat nature, but, yeah, they're just. They're second to none. They're just really, really fantastic. And I know. I knew, like, going into this one, I was like, okay, like, the drums are gonna be just off the charts. And let's just. Right off the back, right here, right now. Which I thought was like a Jesus Jones reference. I thought he was going to sample Jesus Jones. [00:44:23] Speaker B: I think he's a fan, actually. [00:44:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Right here, right now. [00:44:32] Speaker B: Did any other tracks hit you? [00:44:36] Speaker A: I really. I liked California, but that whole midsection. It. Like, it. It. There were separate tracks, but they almost worked in kind of like a. Like a continuous sequence almost. I. I don't know. That was on purpose. Probably was. I love that you're not from Brighton. Yeah, you're not from Brighton. Almost reminds me of, like, Insane in the Membrane by Cypress Hill. [00:45:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:06] Speaker A: So a lot of paper hip hop. And I. I really like the. The way on some songs, like, he would just sample in the word. Like brass would be like brass. Brass. You know? You know what song I'm talking about. [00:45:19] Speaker B: No, wait, what is this? [00:45:20] Speaker A: He's talking. He like, there's like the word brass is like sampled throughout. Like the verses of a song. Build it up, tear it down Brass, brass, brass. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Oh, okay. That's one like I relistening to today. I'm like, this might be my favorite off the album. Like from where I'm at, from where I'm standing right now, like. Like build up, tear it down. Just like the. Just like cuz the chorus, the hook, the. Build it up, tear it down. I like. That's so fantastic. I love it so much. When this album dropped, I became obsessed and listened to it incessantly. And beyond this album, I became a big old collector of his remixes. He is a prolific remixer. And the remixes he did between Better Living Through Chemistry and this album are just legendary. And developed the biggest big. The big beat sound. And then we get to the pinnacle of big beat, which is this album. This is absolute peak big beat. There's. There's. He did. He did a remix of Corner Shops Brim full of Asha. I don't know if you're familiar with Corner Shop. It's Corner Shop Brim full of asher on the 45. All right. Is this amazing remix of Wild Child's Renegade Master. Back once again for the Renegade Master. Default Damage, Power to the Depot. All right. But it's really great. So I started collecting all these. Like, it became like. Much like in our Hybrid episode. Like Hybrid became like a very much wanted remixer, you know, crew. Like you wanted a hybrid remix. If you got a Norman Cook Fat Boy Slim remix on your 12 inch, forget it. It's gonna just destroy. Because he's got these beats for days, he says. Like after Corner Shop and the. And Renegade Master in that trilogy, the last one was Rockefeller Skank. It was defying all the. This wasn't club of music, you know, this is not club. Like, it's not like. It's not techno. It's not a house. His big old. His big old thing. His mantra is, you know, have fun, break all the rules. And he did. And it became a fucking phenomenon. And like, this is still considered electronic music because they made it with electronics. It's got a little soul to it. Like a little joy to it, certainly. And I don't know if I would be a DJ without Pebble Sloan. It didn't occur to me that you could do that. Like, so this. This album meant a whole lot to me. It was very formative. I fell in love with this idea of like, oh, you could just do loops and beats and like, it Made sense to my. In my brain because of my condition. But, like, this could be like. But this could be fun as shit. And his. His element of fun is something that's lacking in a lot of shit these days. And it's. It's like this. The silliness. So like, like, fuck it, who gives a shit? Like, there's. There's no rules. You can do whatever you want as long as it's fun. And I think that's what you've come along way baby means. And I think it's important for that. There's a song on this album called Gangster Tripping and someone that's like, paper chip, get down. I was in high school when the song came out and that song became kind of a hit. I don't know, I forget which. Which, you know, high school rom com movie it was in. But the cheerleaders in my high school liked it and wanted to do like a dance thing to it, but they thought they. He might. The sample might be saying, fuck what you want. What we're doing with it, what we're doing with the fat boy. And I was like, I don't think it's. I don't think he's swearing. But the cheerleaders came up to me, so I was hosting at my locker, which I realized I now do at my stoop. Like every other night, everyone would gather in my locker. We just hang out and talk shit. Oh, my God, I totally do that still. Wow. But then the cheerleaders, like, we're all nerds, dude. I'm like, which Star wars character do you like more? You know, like. And like, the cheerleaders, like, cheerleaders came up to me. Like, not even the cheerleaders. The Palms, which is like a level above the cheerleaders. Palm squad, so, like the hottest. You know, girls. Elliot, you, like, do music stuff, right? I'm like, what? Like, you DJ and stuff? I'm like. And they're like, we want to do like a gangster. Probably some gator chipping dance. But can you, like, cut out the F word if we, like, give you the song? I'm like, I already have it on vinyl. Like, oh, what? What's that? So I made, like, a tape. I'm like, I mean, like, do one with a. What are we doing? What are we doing on the fabric? And I. I'm like, here you go. And like, my French was like, what the fuck was that? How do you know those girls? I'm like, I don't. I really don't. I promise you. I Don't. And they performed a dance to it, and it was pretty wild. And they made me, like, this card, like, this thank you card. Like, thanks, Elliot, but I was stuffing my. Holy shit, where'd that card go? One of my friends probably stole it. I swear to God. Where'd that go? But that was a big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds. [00:50:57] Speaker A: You never thought about that? [00:50:59] Speaker B: I know. I didn't remember it until I was listening. Like, oh, my God, that's why. That one time. Yeah. [00:51:04] Speaker A: That gangster tripping, it reminds me of, like, A Tribe Called Quest. Like I said earlier. [00:51:09] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a lot of hip hop going on and all that. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Yeah, big time. [00:51:12] Speaker B: That's. [00:51:12] Speaker A: That's amazing. You know, it's like. I think it's a really cool story because it. It was like, a way. It's like a way, like, you're. You know. Because high school is high school, you know. [00:51:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:27] Speaker A: There's certain things that I wish were different about it, but, I mean, it's like, there are things about high school that are, you know. You know, that don't seem to ever change. But for you to find a way, like, to connect with the Palms through, like, your love of, you know, Fat Boy Slim and your love of, you know, mixing and dj, I think that's. I think that's incredible, you know, because, I mean, like, I said, like, at this. At this point in my life, 1998, like, I only know those two songs, but for them to like, have discovered, you know, this, like, this cut off this album for you to know it and already have the vinyl and to create something that they, you know, performed a dance to, I think it's amazing. It's just, like, the way that this, you know, this stuff just, like, connects people, you know? [00:52:18] Speaker B: So, yeah. Oh, my Nerd dumb is, like, paying off a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, oh. Like, oh. Like, that's when I was like, okay, I'm a dj, you know, Like. And, like, okay, someone. People are gonna pay me to do this, because I know what I'm fucking talking about. That's when I launched, you know, that's when I went and started doing it. Yeah. [00:52:41] Speaker A: Because. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Because of Norman Club. Yeah. [00:52:44] Speaker A: That's incredible. You've never. I don't think you. You've talked about how much, like, guys like Chemical Brothers and Daft Punk Orbital, you know, have, like, meant to you, but I don't think you've ever, like, ever, like, disclosed why you do what you do. It's pretty big. Pretty special. Pretty special night. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Mm. Yeah. [00:53:08] Speaker A: I'm gonna go get married now, so this is a really great. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Wait, wait, wait. Before you go, we should probably talk about one more album for another hour and 20 minutes. [00:53:20] Speaker A: No. Well, final thoughts, Fat Boy Sim. For me, it was great. Like, it was. It's. It's been one. It's been on my radar for a long time, and I'm glad we finally got to talk about it with the meme. [00:53:35] Speaker B: Will you return to it? [00:53:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I would. I would buy the vinyl for sure. [00:53:42] Speaker B: All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:53:45] Speaker A: So while. While you've come a long way, baby, is a celebration in a lot of ways. My album this week is. It's. What's the. What's the best way to describe this one? It's a introspective look at the darker sides of the human existence. Existence. I told Elliot when we were talking about. I was like, yeah, I think we have, like, complete opposite albums. And he was like, yeah, I think. But those are usually the most interesting conversations. I agree. And excited to dive into this one. My album this week was Alice in chains dirt from 1992. Elliot. [00:55:51] Speaker B: Wow. [00:55:52] Speaker A: What did you think of Dirt? [00:55:57] Speaker B: It was quite a listen, man. And I, and I. I dug it for what it is. Immediately I'm like, wow, this is mastered perfectly. Everything is in its right place. I'll say right now on later Fatboy releases. The vocals are way too high because he's never worked with an actual vocalist before. He's only worked with samples that are already mastered, if you think about it. So this one is, like, perfect. I only get. I could only hear, like, one hi hat. The left ear, like, a little too high. I was like, just chop that up. But the stereo is amazing. The vocal effects are kind of wild. It's another one of these guys that's like recording himself over and over again. I think you have to correct me if I'm wrong. I, I, the, the first note I wrote down listening to this album was sustain ortainment. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:56:55] Speaker B: The. The guitars are just like, they just sustain, seemingly in perpetuity, which I think is amazing. Like, wow. And like the whole album, like, the way it's, like, leveled and like all that stuff, it just smells like a guitar center, you know? I'm like, I just got a real, real guitar center, you know, vibes and like. But also like, where are these guys from? [00:57:25] Speaker A: These guys are from Seattle. [00:57:28] Speaker B: Seattle. Okay, cuz I know you're a West coast dude, but I'm like, these guys. I felt a lot of Midwest because of the Cold weather of it all. Cuz you know what I'm talking about. Cuz like. Wait, wait. Cuz like we talked about special companies before and they're from where? [00:57:44] Speaker A: Chicken? [00:57:45] Speaker B: Chicago. See, okay. If you experience winter, your music is very different. Seems to be. Seems to be. This is my whole hypothesis for this whole entire project. If you experience cold weather, your music's gonna be very different. So Seattle, Rainy. Perfect. Okay. Even though all their music videos look like they're shot in the Mexico sequence of terminator 2, judgment day, everything's orange and they're all bummed out. And like, one of them is just like. The guys are like, we're not gonna make it, are we? And then the bass player is like, it is in your DNA to destroy each other. There are some jams in here. Absolutely. It's just so slow. It's just trudgy. Yeah. It's a march through three feet of snow. It just feels like, oh, am I marching to a shallow grave? And that's how dark this shit is. In very. In opposite direction of Fat Boy Slim. Jake, what's your history with Alice in Chains? [00:58:52] Speaker A: My. My first friend ever, like, in my entire life. His name is Michael. Great guy. If he happens to ever stumble on this. Michael. Cheers. [00:59:04] Speaker B: Hey, Michael. Wow. First friend ever. [00:59:07] Speaker A: He lived down the street from me. And I remember I went over to his house and to Play. To play GoldenEye 007. [00:59:16] Speaker B: Sure. Classic. [00:59:19] Speaker A: And so. And he had an Allison Chain's Greatest Hits cd even. I was like a budding, like, rock, you know, rock nerd in like, the, you know, like, late 90s. And I was like, oh, cool. Alice in Chains. I've seen them in my Guitar World magazine. And we put on the CD and it was man in the Box. I'm the man in the Box. It came out on the album before this facelift. And I thought it was the coolest, most eerie sounding song, like, ever. But it was catchy. And so I burned Alice in Chains. Greatest Hits. Oh. I mean, I did not burn Alice in Chains. Great. I allegedly burned. [01:00:07] Speaker B: And you know, Lars is listening. [01:00:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And there were, you know, most of the songs on that Greatest Hits were on Dirt. I just didn't realize it. And so. And then. And then I discovered Nirvana. And so, like, when people talk about grunge, I feel like Nirvana kind of takes the cake. [01:00:31] Speaker B: Eclipses. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Yes. Perfect way to describe it. The Nirvana, the Seattle sound. But I feel like if you try to, like, distill, like, the essence of what the quote unquote, grunge Movement was. I. I think it doesn't get any more grungy than this album. [01:00:50] Speaker B: Okay. Like, peak grunge right here? [01:00:54] Speaker A: I think so. [01:00:55] Speaker B: Or definitive grunge. [01:00:57] Speaker A: Definitive. Oh, man, you're crushing it tonight. [01:00:59] Speaker B: Yes. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Yep. [01:01:02] Speaker B: Just as you've come along, maybe it's definitive big beat. This is definitive grunge. [01:01:06] Speaker A: I would say this is grunge. Probably, like, maybe, like, you could do, like, Bad Motor Finger by Soundgarden, maybe. I always preferred Alison Chains. I love Jerry Cantrell, the guitar player, and he writes most of the song, wrote most of the songs alongside Lane Staley, the. The vocalist. I prefer his guitar playing to his guitar playing and writing to Chris Cornell. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Okay. [01:01:38] Speaker A: This album, it just hits you like a ton of bricks. [01:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it opens. It opens with, like, just. We're into it. Like, bam. With the opening track. Like, it's just like. They don't. Yeah, yeah, they don't. There's no intro. There's no, you know, right here, right now. Like. Like, we're gonna ease into this. Like. No, no, no. There's a wham. [01:01:59] Speaker A: It's just like, ow. [01:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like, we're in it. We're in it. We're in it. Yeah. [01:02:06] Speaker A: It's hard and it's heavy. And what. What I learned in my research for this one, like, the band actually recorded during the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict. [01:02:16] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [01:02:17] Speaker A: So it's like, there's a. There's just. There's just, like, a heaviness to that. And, like, if this. This album is, like. It's brutal musically. It's. [01:02:26] Speaker B: It's. It's. [01:02:26] Speaker A: It's a heavy metal album, you know, like, in. In every sense of the word. But, like, the lyrics are so raw and so just, like, not trying, like, to be necessarily metaphorical or poetic or about anything. Like, they're talking about isolation, they're talking about addiction. They're talking about, you know, the struggles of, you know, Vietnam War veterans in the Rooster, which. Which we'll get to. One of the lyrics that stuck out to me the most, which was on Junk Head. [01:03:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:09] Speaker A: The chorus is, what's my drug of choice? [01:03:12] Speaker B: What do you. What do you got? Yeah, I remember that. I didn't look at my notes. Yeah, that one, like, hit me pretty hard, too. I'm like, jesus Christ. [01:03:20] Speaker A: Well, and. And so we would be remiss to talk about Allison Chains and not addressed, like, Lane Staley and original basis Mike Starr. Lane Staley died. He overdosed on heroin. And Mike Starr also died of a drug Overdose as well. And I. I don't know enough about Their. What was going on during this album. I don't know about their. About Lane Staley's history or anything like that, but I know that he struggled. They. He. You know, he struggled with addiction, you know, serious addiction, and he eventually passed away from it. And that. That is just laced into these lyrics, you know? And knowing that he passed from that and hearing that. That lyric in Junkhead, I was just like, oh, damn. Like, there are multiple times, like, listening to this album that I would say just. I'd stop and be like, oh, man, that's heavy. Like, and I. I think the rawness of those lyrics really just makes it that much more powerful. Like, there's no. There's no holding back here. [01:04:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:42] Speaker A: Damn that river. Oh, man. [01:04:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:47] Speaker A: Down in a Hole, which is like a ballad on the record. [01:04:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:53] Speaker A: It'S just. It's almost like there's, like, an acoustic guitar, I feel in it, and, like, Lane Staley's vocals are just so. Just, like, haunting and, like, pained. Like, I don't know. There's so many bangers on this one. But I think that the centerpiece of the album is Rooster. What did you. Yeah, what did you think about Rooster? [01:05:18] Speaker B: Well, Rooster's like, you know, the one, of course. And I realized, like, listening to this album, like, oh, I've heard a few of these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was flashing back to, like, karaoke, and I. In college, like, I remember, like, people singing Rooster and stuff like that. But then I, you know, watched the video for. I'm like, wait, is Rooster about Vietnam? Like, what the fuck? Like, the official video, like, opens with, like, appears to be. Help me out here. Like, a little interview, like, with the vocalist's father was in. [01:05:49] Speaker A: Yeah. So, dude, thanks for bringing that up. In my research for tonight, I was like, I want to. You know, I want. Because I like. You know, I like reading about our artists, for sure. But if I can hear them tell their own story, you know, I really enjoy that. So I did some research, and I want to give credit where credit's due. The Opus by Consequence podcast had a really great segment on Dirt where they talked about. So, like. So Jerry Cantrell, the guitar player, his father was in Vietnam and. And came back, as, sadly, many Vietnam veterans did, with just a ton of baggage that they needed to unpack but maybe weren't ready to or didn't know how to. And it kind of made Jerry estranged from his father. [01:06:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:55] Speaker A: Jerry Cantrell wrote the Rooster from his father's perspective as a Vietnam veteran to try and connect with him and, you know, court. And apparently it helped them re. Establish some type of relationship. And that is actually Jerry Cantrell's father, I think Jerry Senior, if I'm not mistaken, in the music video, talking about his time in Vietnam. And it's incredibly heavy stuff. Like, that's. I'm gonna say that word, heavy a lot in the next, like, 20 minutes because. [01:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's a heavy album. Yeah. It seems to be, like, about, like, you know, a lot of processing and, like, processing what seems to be hereditary trauma. Like, you know, like, if your dad or grandfather comes back from something so traumatic like that, it's going to influence you, and that's therefore hereditary, like, trauma. And so these guys are talking about some pretty heavy shit in the grunge world. And not to get too far off the meaning of the album or the talk about trauma or anything, but, like, who are influencing these guys. [01:08:14] Speaker A: His favorite. His biggest influence and favorite band was AC dc. [01:08:19] Speaker B: Sure. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Okay. And Tony Iommi from. From Black Sabbath and Eddie Van Halen. [01:08:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:27] Speaker A: And so. But the weird thing is, so I didn't. It. There's not a lot. I mean, I feel like there is, but. So, like, Alice in Chains started off as, like, a glam metal band, almost. Like. I don't know if you remember our Pantera talk, where we talked about how Pantera started off. Middle. [01:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Same thing with Alice in Chains. Like, they really. Yeah. Like, they were, like, a total hair metal band. [01:08:53] Speaker B: Wow. [01:08:53] Speaker A: And so Jerry Cantrell moved to Seattle and met Lane Staley, the vocalist. And they just were immediate friends. And they were like, let's form a band. This is the. This is the abbreviated version. And they couldn't think of a band name. And Jerry Cantrell was like, why don't we use your old band name? And so to avoid being compared to Guns in Roses. Alice in Chains. [01:09:24] Speaker B: That's adorable. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Which, honestly, like, when I think of Alice in Chains, that's like. I think of, like, Allison Wonderlands, but then I think of chains. And chains are like. It's just like. Like, you're. I don't know. It's heavy. Like, and. And. And this. It's like the. It. It. It just works like this. That band name works with. [01:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah, well, they're going. They're trapped. Going down the rabbit hole or whatever. Yeah, seems to be. Yes. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Oh, beautifully put. I would clap, but it'll. It would send the meters out. [01:09:56] Speaker B: Out of. Was Spike and all music yeah. [01:10:02] Speaker A: This. Even, Even like the album title, Dirt. [01:10:06] Speaker B: I mean, from Whence we Came, There we go and all that. It seems to be a lot about, like, oh, man, like, what does this all mean? And like, like, like, like, you know, out of the dirt, back to it. Like, like, what is this life all about? Like, I. I got. Got that. But like, damn brutal. And what a. Kind of a beautiful, poetic and. And well produced way to present this idea of, like, this might not mean anything. It's just. It's just a. It's quite brutal, you know, and like, it's gonna rain when I die. That's like, that could be the title of this album. Like, it's gonna rain. Like, but, like, but. But it doesn't also mean, like, to me, rain means hope. But like, but. But these guys are dealing with some. [01:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And I think so. One of my favorite modern pop punk bands, although I feel like late, I feel like in the last, like five or so years they've kind of transcended that pop genre, is the Wonder Years. And if you haven't checked them out, I think they're really worth it. They. I would compare, like, Alison Chains to, like, the modern Wonder Years because the lure. The lyricist, Dan Campbell, he writes. He's just like, incredibly, like. Just like raw. Like, like, not sugarcoating anything. Like, I want, like. One of my favorite songs is like, the lyrics trick is I'm Jesus Christ, I'm 26. All the people I graduated, kid Jesus Christ, I'm 26. All I graduated with all have kids. I'll have wives. I'll have people who care if they come home at night, you know, which is just like, devastating, you know, and like listening to Dirt and I'm just like. I hear a lot of this just like, Just like I. I can't think of any other way to describe it, but raw emotion in these lyrics in these songs. And it's just. It's like, there's a lot of like, metal riffing. Like, Jerry Cantrells is a killer guitar player. Jesus. [01:12:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:12:24] Speaker A: You know, but. And it's not like Iron Maiden. It's not like Judas Priest. Like, that's like heavy metal. Metal. But this. This album is brutal in every, like, sense of the word. Like, I would. This is a very heavy album, for sure. [01:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Who came after this? Who were. Who were in, who are therefore influenced by this? [01:12:46] Speaker A: Oh, man. I would. I would say so. [01:12:51] Speaker B: This. This came out in 92. [01:12:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:54] Speaker B: It feels way more modern than that. Like, even, like, production Wise, like, it's very impressive. It sounds amazing. [01:13:01] Speaker A: Oh. Oh, geez. Like when. When Jerry kicks into like a solo and like, like that, they turn that overdrive into that guitar that he's the. The rhythm. Oh, it's so killer. [01:13:13] Speaker B: We get. We got Wawa pedals going on. Wow. Wow, wow. [01:13:16] Speaker A: Yes. A lot of Wawa pedals, for sure. [01:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah. I dig it, man. I'm a big fan. [01:13:20] Speaker A: You get new metal from this, you know, like, you get that self titled Corn album from our first episode. This. [01:13:29] Speaker B: Wow. [01:13:29] Speaker A: This came out. That came out two years after this. Like, you get that raw emotion that Jonathan Davis was doing on that album. You can get from this record for sure. [01:13:40] Speaker B: Okay. All right. [01:13:42] Speaker A: I knew, I knew. I really, really, really wanted to talk about this album. [01:13:46] Speaker B: The. [01:13:46] Speaker A: I think it's one of the greatest albums of. And it's like an understatement, but personally, one of the greatest albums of the 90s, which is like my half of the show. And I've really, really come to really appreciate and value what. What they created with this one. Yeah, I love the. That. The closing. The 12 of angry chair and Wood. [01:14:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I liked Wood a lot. It started I was like, oh, this is. This is the one that's not like the other. There's a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:14:29] Speaker A: So that one was actually written by Elaine Staley, the vocalist. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Interesting. [01:14:37] Speaker A: Yeah. And so like, you know who. So Lane said he passed away 2002. Incredibly, like, gifted vocalist. I. I've seen like live video of them doing like, some of their. Like some of their songs that in the studio, you're just like, oh, that's studio trickery. Like, they probably like cut that from like three different takes. But he sounds just amazing. Like, wow. With what's really interesting about Allison Shane's Prince, I love is that Jerry and Lane, they sing together a lot. Jerry does that kind of like that smooth, you know, vocal. And Lane, Lane comes on top with like, like an awful tail almost. [01:15:22] Speaker B: I didn't do it. It's not the one guy that's just repeating himself. [01:15:28] Speaker A: So they're singing together. Yeah, yeah. [01:15:29] Speaker B: Oh, it's a little harmony going on. [01:15:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:15:32] Speaker B: Oh, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. Wow. [01:15:36] Speaker A: So the other member, Mike Starr, he played bass on this one. He. He passed away in 2011. [01:15:43] Speaker B: Oh, my God. How many are left? [01:15:46] Speaker A: So it's Sean and Jerry and actually I got to see Talk About Corn a second ago. I actually got to see see Alice in Chains and Corn play together a couple years ago. You know, like it was like the. The new lead singer doesn't sound like Lane, but no one does and no one will or should. [01:16:10] Speaker B: The. The vocals are pretty far out and, like, ethereal and like, weird, otherworldly, eerie, you know, like. [01:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, but it's like, like paying. Paying like, homage to. [01:16:24] Speaker B: To this. [01:16:25] Speaker A: And. And Jerry is. He's awesome. Like, he's just like. Like a really badass guitar player. And. And he's just. You know, I listened to him on that podcast earlier, and he just like, he sounds like a guy who's like, really content and really loves what he does. And this was what you. It's what you hope for and. And want to hear. [01:16:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:51] Speaker A: From your favorite musicians. But no, this. This was a great one. I've. I've. I've. Like, I've gone back and like, listened to it a couple times over, like, the past year or so because they're all saying 30th anniversary, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all this other stuff. And. [01:17:08] Speaker B: Huh. I listened to a couple remasts, like 2023, Two Masters remasters and all that. I'm like, all right, if you say so. Like, everything sounded truly pristine, especially for the. For 92. Oh, my God. Yeah. [01:17:22] Speaker A: If I'm not mistaken, they record it in the same studio that Metallica recorded the Black Album in. That's kind of cool. But no, like, this. This is really neat to listen to with the Memo's ear. [01:17:37] Speaker B: The Memo's ear. [01:17:39] Speaker A: Hashtag memo's ear. And it was like a total like 180 from where, like I said, like, you've come a long way, baby. Is like. Is like a celebration, a big beat and of life in a lot of ways. And I feel like Dirt is like a harrowing tale of, like, the dark side of life and telling those stories that are. Are important for. For people to know and to listen to and. And it's a heavy listen. I would maybe like, approach it lightly, but I. I would absolutely recommend it. And if you do need. If you do need help or if you are suffering from. From any addiction or anything, please reach out to your friends and your family or. Or someone you trust to help you because they love you and they're there for you. But I do hope you enjoyed Alice and Shakes. Elliot, what were your final thoughts? [01:18:46] Speaker B: Final thoughts were. Oh, yeah, music. Music used to sound really good. I. Side note, I thought Sixth man sounded like a Rob Zombie to him. Are you serious? [01:19:02] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. Oh, my God, dude. This is why we have this show. [01:19:12] Speaker B: It was a. It was a The Thomas to the snare Thomas. I'm like, this is Zombie, like, Like. [01:19:22] Speaker A: A Rob Zombie, dude. Oh, man. I had that in my notes, but, like, I was kind of shooting from the hip. I didn't even look at him, but there, man. Dude, that's amazing. [01:19:32] Speaker B: Yes. [01:19:33] Speaker A: I totally got that Rob Zombie that. Like that about that. Yeah, big time. Absolutely. [01:19:39] Speaker B: Another thing I'll say is, like, both our guys this week, Allison Chains and Fab touch on substance abuse in a direct and very indirect way. Fab has been pretty forward about his substance problems. And after this album, after you've come a long way, baby, He. He got sober, and that's a pretty big deal. And his next album was called Halfway between the Gutter and the Stars. And the gutter, to me, sounds a lot like dirt. And so, like, Allison Chains are coming from the ground level up, and, like, they're talking about it, and they're getting into the nitty gritty of it. And while Fat Wal Norman Cook, Fatwise, then is kind of ignoring it because he's in the middle of it. And then in the next album, he's like, I need to get out of this. I have kids now. And he makes about getting out of it. And, you know, so both our guys, while very different music, Fatboy is something about joy and sex, silliness, and Alice in Chains about dark poetry. And, like, all this, they're both kind of talking about the same thing, which is life. And what are we going to do from here? We come from dirt, and that's where we're going to end up. So. But, like, perhaps we're just here halfway between the dirt and the stars. And while we're here, all we can do is make cool. And I think that's what we're trying to with this show. I think that's what Allison Chains is doing and what my son is doing. And, yeah, I think both these bands are awesome and worth a listen. [01:21:38] Speaker A: You get what you get from it based on what's going on in your soul. You know, it's really, really neat. And then with, like, Alice in Chains, there's no. Like, there's no. Like, this is just like, hey, this is. This is what this is about. [01:21:52] Speaker B: Like, this is what? [01:21:52] Speaker A: Football. [01:21:55] Speaker B: It's quite immediate. Yeah. [01:21:58] Speaker A: Yes. You know, like, in a lot of blatant. [01:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:22:03] Speaker A: And it's just really, really cool how, like, how art allows you to, like, you know. You know, either, like, you know, let you come to your own conclusions or take you by the hand and be like, no, here's what's up. That's what I love about this. That's what I love about this journey and, like, learning about different types of bands and different types of music. [01:22:26] Speaker B: It's just. [01:22:28] Speaker A: It's really cool. And I'm just having a moment. It might be, you know, it might be just like. I don't know. [01:22:35] Speaker B: Well, yeah, you're. You're in a state. You're. And you're. And you're a little. You're a little. You're amping up to a big day, and you're probably in an emotional way. That's great. Yeah. [01:22:48] Speaker A: You know, it's like. It's. It's. It's like, things you're like, I don't know. [01:22:55] Speaker B: Always the wordsmith, you know? [01:22:58] Speaker A: It's like, I don't know. [01:23:02] Speaker B: You know, it's like, I don't know. [01:23:05] Speaker A: Right. No. To quote one of. To quote one of our previous articles, artist and possibly my favorite artist, you know, it's like, I guess this is growing up, you know, it's like noticing things and appreciating things on a different level. It's just really. It's really profound, and it's. I don't know. I could listen to this a year from now and be like, what was I thinking? You know? But at this moment, I'm just kind of like, man, there's just so much amazing art and music out there, and it's such a treat to be able to talk about it and to dissect it, you know, like, is. [01:23:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:46] Speaker A: A real. A real true pleasure. And. Yeah. [01:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I think I get what you're saying. Like, I don't consider this, like, a. In the age of nostalgia that we're currently in and media and all that. I don't. I don't consider this a throwback nostalgia podcast. This is an autobiographical podcast. You know, we're telling our stories to each other, man, through albums that we recommend to each other. Like, it's not. It's not like, remember. [01:24:15] Speaker A: Remember that. [01:24:16] Speaker B: You know, it's more like, dude, this made me who I am today. We're telling each other about ourselves and to the Internet or whoever cares to listen. And it's not because these are things. Things are cool now. The numbers will tell you that, but it's because these things mean a lot to us. And I think. What is more pure of art than that? [01:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't have said it better. [01:24:43] Speaker B: All right, well, that was awesome. And what an introspective and cool discussion about Fable Slim And Alice in Chains. Jake, what do you got for next time? [01:24:56] Speaker A: So, you know, you talked about nostalgia just a second ago. And about two weeks ago, my favorite band of all time announced that they're uniting. [01:25:07] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [01:25:08] Speaker A: And playing shows. So that's Blink 182. [01:25:13] Speaker B: Yep. It's a big old deal. [01:25:16] Speaker A: They're playing with. They're playing the When We Were Young fest, which is kind of like an emo pop punk celebration in Vegas. [01:25:25] Speaker B: The lineup is bonker, roomies, fun, not so. [01:25:29] Speaker A: And I got tickets, so I only have to wait a year. So we'll report back a year from now. [01:25:41] Speaker B: All right. I want to make note. [01:25:44] Speaker A: Yeah. There was this legendary show, kind of like the Family Values tour that Elliot went to and saw Crystal Method. [01:25:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:52] Speaker A: So there's probably around the same time. Honestly, it was the Pop disaster tour from 2001, and it was Blink 182. And another band that has yet to make an appearance on this show. Until next time. So with that being said, we talked about Southern California pop punk with the Offspring a couple weeks ago. But next episode, we're gonna introduce Trey Cool, Mike Dern, and Billy Joe Armstrong. Green day. [01:26:35] Speaker B: Oh. [01:26:36] Speaker A: With 1994's Dookie. [01:26:42] Speaker B: Dookie, fantastic. [01:26:44] Speaker A: And I'm hoping we can pull some special guests to do some field correspondence for that we will see happen. [01:26:54] Speaker B: We have a special correspondent on site right now. Yeah, we might be able to do that. [01:26:59] Speaker A: Dookie. And this is. It's kind of like we talk about pop punk. I feel like he is like, Dookie is like the seed that sprouted the whole pop punk genre. But we'll get there. [01:27:14] Speaker B: What are the big ones on Dookie? [01:27:17] Speaker A: So. Oh, man, it's like a great. [01:27:20] Speaker B: Is it ridiculous? It's like this is all jammed. [01:27:23] Speaker A: So you have long view. The sit around and watch the tube, but nothing's on. And then you got Basket Case. You have the time. [01:27:36] Speaker B: Oh, forget it. Yeah. [01:27:37] Speaker A: And then you got she. She screams in silence. And then my personal record, my personal favorite on the record when I come around, all songs I played multiple times at our open mic that we. [01:27:57] Speaker B: Of course. Of course. Yeah. Okay. In 1999, a DJ that I'm quite a big fan of, and he's in the DG community. He's also known as God. His name is Sasha. In 1999, he released an EP called Expander. And this would be a nice, easy, quick listen. It's four tracks. [01:28:29] Speaker A: Four tracks. [01:28:30] Speaker B: Four tracks. [01:28:32] Speaker A: Are they all 20 minutes long? [01:28:33] Speaker B: They're quite long. They're all 11 plus minutes. You can see here we have Expander, which is phenomenal. We have Bellfunk, Rabbit, Tweed, and Baja. Now Expander, think Paul Van Dyke's Foreign Angel. I know you're a big fan. Oh. So Expander, this, this, this lead track, you know, plate A, side A is a absolute classic in the trance world. And then the other three tracks are like, beautiful. Like, soundscapes are just fantastic. So I think you're gonna dig this one. [01:29:13] Speaker A: He has a Ray of Light remix. [01:29:16] Speaker B: He does indeed. [01:29:17] Speaker A: We can't talk about that. [01:29:19] Speaker B: We can bring that up. Yeah. [01:29:21] Speaker A: Okay. Expander, Expander. Expander. Hold on. [01:29:23] Speaker B: Do Sasha. Sasha versus Green Day. [01:29:26] Speaker A: Sasha versus Green Day. [01:29:28] Speaker B: It's. It's so wildly different. Oh, my God, that's great. [01:29:31] Speaker A: The Expander ep. [01:29:33] Speaker B: Perfect. It should be four tracks. [01:29:36] Speaker A: Expander, Edit, Bell Funk, Rabbit, Weed, Baja. [01:29:40] Speaker B: Perfect. [01:29:41] Speaker A: All right. And here's. If you've listened to this show, you know, I, you know, I've, I've. I'm one for always. A springing one on my partner Elliot here, catching him off guard. [01:29:56] Speaker B: What are you doing now? [01:29:58] Speaker A: So, being that it's November, it's my birthday month, and it's also the month of giving thanks in a lot of ways, and we had a really great experience last year of gifting a song to one another that we were thankful for. Yeah. You mentioned Paul Van Dyke from. Yeah, that became like, I'm excited to see my Spotify year end because if it's not on the top 10, Spotify doesn't make sense. And I jumper my possibly favorite song of all time. [01:30:34] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:30:35] Speaker A: So I'm going to throw this one at my partner Elliot here and gift him another song. This time a song that's a lot of fun, that has meant a lot to me. This song, when I. When I first got my. I first got my guitar, this was the first song I wanted to learn on it because it came up on Mickey Sinus 6.1, the. This mystical radio station of my youth, and I thought it was so cool. I love the chords. I loved everything about this song and I'm very, very excited to talk about it. So for our special Thanksgiving, thanks, mimos Giving. [01:31:21] Speaker B: Okay. [01:31:22] Speaker A: I'm gifting Elliot miserable by Lit. And that is off of the 1999 album A Place in the Sun. [01:31:33] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay. Is that a bonus episode? [01:31:37] Speaker A: That's a bonus ep. [01:31:39] Speaker B: Do I need to give you one, though? Hit me. [01:31:43] Speaker A: So, a little backstory on why we're doing Lit. Not only do I absolutely adore this song and have for. I don't know, 23 years out of the blue, like, you know, a couple months ago, Elliot texted and said, hey, what's that? What's that pop punk album? It's like, has, like, a girl in yellow on the COVID And I was just like, I remember that, dude. And like, without, like. I was just like, let's A place in the sun. And then like, a couple minutes go by and you're like. He was like, that's it. That's the one. [01:32:20] Speaker B: We were. [01:32:21] Speaker A: We couldn't figure it out. And so. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why we're. That's why we're doing A Place in the sun. Or miserable off A Place in the Sun. [01:32:33] Speaker B: But, like, if I'm going, like, just a single, like, a one track that I think Jake would enjoy and I am thankful for, and I think. And this fits perfectly. It's a track called Little Fluffy Clouds by the Orb. [01:32:52] Speaker A: Fluffy clouds. [01:32:55] Speaker B: The Orb. He's running it down with a quill like Shakespeare. He has a. He has a feather in his hand. [01:33:03] Speaker A: All right, so tell me about the orb real quick. Who. Who are they? [01:33:08] Speaker B: It's two dudes that sound like Orbital, but they're not the Orb. And they did these, like, kaleidoscopic kind of collage soundscapes electronically. And they're like. They're like even, like, tune in the AM radios and, like. And bring that stuff in. And a live performance, stuff like that. This is sample stuff that they don't. They have no control over, but they have this song called Little Fluffy Clouds. And it's really beautiful. And I think you might just dig it, because I sure do. All right. [01:33:42] Speaker A: All right. So. All right. [01:33:45] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, yeah. [01:33:46] Speaker A: Our full episode, we got Sasha an expander. [01:33:51] Speaker B: Sasha's expander ep. [01:33:53] Speaker A: Sasha's expander ep. Sorry. [01:33:55] Speaker B: Yes. [01:33:55] Speaker A: And Green Day dookie. And then for our special sipsgiving Thanksgiving episode, we're gonna have the Orb and little fluffy clouds and Lit's miserable. [01:34:14] Speaker B: Okay. [01:34:15] Speaker A: Top 10 favorite song of all time. Very excited to talk about Lit. [01:34:19] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Oh, boy. Okay. [01:34:25] Speaker A: And then we might have something up our sleeve for year end. We might dip our toes into early 2000s. [01:34:32] Speaker B: We'll see. We might time travel a little bit. [01:34:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it. We. We might just, you know, after three years, break a few rules, man. [01:34:42] Speaker A: That's right. That's what I'm talking about. [01:34:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:46] Speaker A: Well, Elliot, thank you for bringing more Fatboy Slim into my life. You've come a long way, baby. Was a real treat, and it was great to Revisit so many really great memories I have of Rockefeller Skank and Praise youe. And also to dive into the rest of that record that I, unfortunately had not really had a chance to listen to. It was a real treat. [01:35:13] Speaker B: Yeah, some great stuff. And thank you for sharing Alice's Chains. They have been on my periphery, of course, but, like, listening, sitting with that mood piece of it all was like. It was quite something. [01:35:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:35:28] Speaker B: It was like looking at a big, gigantic oil painting and it was like this. I just took it in. It was really great. So I dug it. I dug it. [01:35:35] Speaker A: Glad you enjoyed it, dude. [01:35:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:35:38] Speaker A: Well, I think the next time we'll talk, I will be a married man, which. [01:35:44] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. [01:35:46] Speaker A: So we'll. We'll report on that and we'll talk about Green Day and Sasha as well. [01:35:51] Speaker B: Yes, that sounds like a plan to me, bro. [01:35:55] Speaker A: All right, dude. Well, I'm signing off. [01:35:59] Speaker B: I am as well. Hey, do all listen. Thanks for listening. Hit us up on the things Gmail, I think, and find us on Instagram. CM Pod, I think. [01:36:10] Speaker A: Thank you to for anyone that's messaged and commented on Instagram or any of those socials, letting us know that you've enjoyed the episodes or what you want to hear more of anything interesting. That all really does mean the world, especially to know that there are folks out there that are listening to this project that Elliot and I have been working on for three years now. So thank you for listening and I hope you continue listening. [01:36:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I hope so, too. Go feed your dog and hug your fiance, because you've only got a week or so to do that until she becomes your wife, so. So enjoy. That. [01:37:01] Speaker A: Will do, bro. [01:37:03] Speaker B: All right. And to Jake and to everyone else that's listening, I think we would both like to say, hey, stay sipping. [01:37:15] Speaker A: All right, dude. [01:37:16] Speaker B: All right. All right, bud. [01:37:17] Speaker A: You take it easy, all right. [01:37:19] Speaker B: You too, man. [01:37:20] Speaker A: Later. [01:37:24] Speaker B: Sa.