Disney (with Nick from Mickey in Minutes)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, what do you have there? [00:00:02] Speaker B: Is that a churro or it's a dole whip. [00:00:06] Speaker A: It's a dole whip. I've got my Mickey bar. Hey, let's cheers. [00:00:11] Speaker B: Hey, cheers. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Cheers when you wish. Welcome back to a very special episode of Sip of Memos, or as I'm calling it today, when You Sip Upon a Star. [00:00:34] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:00:35] Speaker A: This is the Internet's premier Citrus Space Libation podcast, wherein my partner Elliot and I discuss 90s rock and electronica albums. So growing up in the 90s, or just being a person in the had so many amazing, groundbreaking pop culture events happening. You had movies, you had albums, you had TV. One of those inescapable things was the movies of a little company called Walt Disney. [00:01:12] Speaker B: This is true. [00:01:13] Speaker A: Pictures told me. [00:01:15] Speaker B: VHS boxes. [00:01:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. The shells, shell casing. Yeah. And so we figured this is an idea that Elliot and I have been bouncing off each other for a while now, and we would be remiss to have a podcast about 90s music without talking about some of the greatest not only songs, but movies, not just of the 90s, but of all time. And so today we're going to be discussing some Disney songs culturally of note. Culturally of note. Oh, I like that. [00:01:51] Speaker B: Moved the media landscape and all that good stuff. So you better mention it. Right? [00:01:57] Speaker A: I like that. [00:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:59] Speaker A: So for today's very special episode, we're actually breaking new ground. We're bringing on a Disney expert, one of my oldest friends and one of my cherished friends, Nick. Nick. Welcome to Sippin'memos. [00:02:12] Speaker C: Hey, thanks so much for having me. This is awesome. This is really cool. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Nick, we're so very glad that you were able to be our guest. Special episode. Did I steal it from Jake? Did I steal it from Jake? I thought you would do that. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Let me cross. [00:02:29] Speaker B: It. How you doing, Nick? How's your day? [00:02:33] Speaker C: Oh, man, I am doing great. It's awesome to be here. Able to get back behind the actually, I know you were going to mention I can introduce myself. I use know it's an irrelevant plug at this point, but I was the host of the Mickey and Minutes Podcast, a Disney podcast, for about three or four years. I stopped doing it maybe a little over a year ago, but I miss it. And when I got the call to do this, I was thinking, this is awesome. And maybe, just maybe, I'll bring that podcast back too. And then I'll have you guys on. [00:03:11] Speaker B: Whenever I oh, boy. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Love it. Well, tell us about Mickey Minnis. What kind of stuff would you dive into? [00:03:17] Speaker C: So I called it the Short Disney Show because I always wanted it to be really concise. I had the idea of something you can listen to on the monorail ride from your resort to the park and get some information. Then you get to the park and you'd be like, hey, family, guess what I learned today. Right. [00:03:37] Speaker B: A commute podcast within the parks. [00:03:39] Speaker C: Exactly. You can listen to on the way to work whenever. But I would give Disney history. I focus on theme parks a lot. I love the theme parks. I did some episodes on movies and all that kind of stuff. So it was kind of all over the place. But the idea was a know one. Commute. [00:03:58] Speaker A: What's the like the short cartoons that Disney put out was something funnies. [00:04:04] Speaker C: Or the Silly Symphonies. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Silly Symphonies? It's kind of like Silly Symphonies in a podcast form. Yeah. [00:04:12] Speaker C: My intro music I want to say this without getting flagged for copyright. My intro music was like the old Steamboat Willie music. I talked over it, so maybe it wasn't mean. [00:04:22] Speaker B: I think they're cool if you talk over it. I'm pretty worried about this episode because Disney is notoriously litigious. [00:04:30] Speaker C: That's what I've heard. I'll tell you one thing that made me a little nervous about coming on here. My podcast. Since I did it by myself, everything was scripted. And with you guys, I know it's very conversational. So it's like, all right, let's just talk. [00:04:44] Speaker B: We just chit chat. [00:04:45] Speaker A: Like, the sip of mules was kind of born over sharing mimosas, I think, on a Saturday morning in Austin where we're just kind of elliot and I really enjoyed talking about music and albums. And we both had our backgrounds, and we're just like, hey, we should start a show where we just have mimosas know, just chat about our favorite albums. And here we are. Awesome. [00:05:08] Speaker C: Jake, I want to mention something from an old time of our friendship. We'd known each other for a long time, and I don't know if you remember this, but we had an idea, like, forever ago to do a podcast, and we recorded one episode at my apartment. Do you remember what that podcast was called? [00:05:28] Speaker A: Oh, man, I remember. It started off with the 90s. [00:05:37] Speaker C: It never got published, by the way. I have it somewhere. [00:05:41] Speaker A: But what was it called? [00:05:43] Speaker C: It was called the Great Movie Pod. Like the great movie ride. It was the great movie. Pod. [00:05:51] Speaker B: When was this, guys? Dude, I feel uncomfortable right now. [00:05:57] Speaker C: Yeah, we're talking about our history together. Sorry, man. [00:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah, this is like, oh, it's cool. I'm still friends with my ex. He's going to come over for dinner tonight. [00:06:09] Speaker A: It was 2015. [00:06:11] Speaker B: Oh, what? Ellie swooped in. I swooped in. I stole your boy. [00:06:17] Speaker C: Yeah. And then I ended up just doing the same Disney podcast idea by myself. Thanks, Jake. [00:06:22] Speaker B: What was the movie Pod going to be? Oh, Disney movies. [00:06:25] Speaker C: Yeah, it was like Disney movies. Yeah, it was going to be Disney movies and stuff. We had a segment that Jake was adamant about. It was going to be called Boy meets Pod. And we were going to discuss specific Boy Meets World episodes. Do you remember this, Jake? [00:06:36] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:06:37] Speaker C: I think we never got around to that. But it was idea. [00:06:42] Speaker A: And now the stars of Boy Meets. [00:06:45] Speaker C: World have their own podcast. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Isn't it called boy meet Pod. [00:06:48] Speaker C: Now probably they stole that from you. [00:06:51] Speaker B: Wow. [00:06:53] Speaker A: We were ahead of our time. [00:06:57] Speaker B: How'd you all meet, then? [00:06:59] Speaker A: So Nick and I both came up playing in pop punk bands in San Antonio. And it was 2008, and I think your band needed a new singer and guitar player. [00:07:15] Speaker C: We did. [00:07:16] Speaker A: And so I remember you shot me a message. We must have played together. [00:07:20] Speaker C: We met at a mutual friend's house. It was like a bonfire party, and there's a bunch of acoustic guitars there. And we were playing, and we just started chitchatting. And you were like, hey, man, do you know how to play Sugar We're Going Down by Fallout Boy. I was like, yeah, bro. So we played that song together, and the bromance was born, and then we played in the band. He joined my band. We were called forever golden. We played for a while. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [00:07:47] Speaker C: Stayed close since then. [00:07:49] Speaker B: Jake, this is all sounding pretty familiar. I think you might have a pattern with podcast. [00:07:57] Speaker A: Think this is a very eye opening experience right now. I'm having a lot to unpack. Like I said, 2008, because it was still MySpace days. [00:08:10] Speaker C: It was, man. [00:08:11] Speaker A: I remember your profile pic. You were wearing in a black shirt, and you had a black fitted black cap to the side. [00:08:20] Speaker C: I did. It was probably a follow boy hat. I think it was like clandestine industries. Remember that pete Wentz's brand. Yeah, I was all about that. [00:08:28] Speaker A: I was a fanboy those 15 glorious years now. [00:08:32] Speaker B: Well, Nick, who were your radio rock guys in the 90s, then? [00:08:36] Speaker C: All right, gosh. In the 90s. I'm proud to say that when I was growing up, I always said, my favorite band is Sugar Ray. Now I say that that was my first favorite band was Sugar Ray. [00:08:48] Speaker B: How about that? [00:08:49] Speaker C: And I've never seen them live. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Did you ever go back to those Meme Machine days, dude? [00:08:54] Speaker C: Yes. What is that? Lemonade and brownies. [00:09:00] Speaker B: I'm here, too. [00:09:04] Speaker A: One of our very first episodes we covered, it was like 1450 914 59. [00:09:10] Speaker C: I'm going to go back and listen to that. That album is unstoppable. [00:09:13] Speaker A: Oh, it's crazy. And then we paired it with the Prodigy's Jilted generation. [00:09:18] Speaker C: Okay. My mom went to the store, and she was going to buy me floored, and she had to ask the lady at the store if it said a lot of bad words because it was parental advisory and she wasn't sure if I could listen to it. That was sugar. [00:09:32] Speaker B: A did you ever dig out any electronica guys? [00:09:37] Speaker C: Was Crystal Method. The Crystal Method? [00:09:40] Speaker B: That's one of Jake's faves. [00:09:41] Speaker C: All right, Elliot, when I met you at Jake's wedding, and yes, the first conversation well, that we really had, we were talking about whether or not Crystal Method was on the Lost in Space soundtrack. Do you remember that conversation? [00:09:57] Speaker B: It's Apollo 440, but there might be a Crystal Method, too. I don't know. [00:10:01] Speaker C: All right, we're going to fact check this and get back to. [00:10:08] Speaker A: One of the things. When my wife and I, we were doing our table settings, I was like, I know that these two guys I have so much in common with both of them. I know they're going to hit it off. And here we are now, eight months later. [00:10:25] Speaker C: We were at the Blink 182 table. Yes. [00:10:27] Speaker A: And that was very specific. [00:10:31] Speaker C: Good stuff. [00:10:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I remember sitting down next to Nick at the table at that Blink table, and I was like, oh, we're over here. I'm like, oh, hey, I'm Elliot. And I'm Nick. And then it just was revealed. That said it. Oh, you're the podcast guy, because I heard about you and all that and know wanted to check out your Disney podcast and yeah, how about that? I'm glad we're finally getting absolutely with Lawson's face. Busy child is on it. [00:11:05] Speaker C: Busy Child. That's what it is. That's them, right? [00:11:07] Speaker A: Get busy, child. [00:11:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Good child. It is indeed. [00:11:12] Speaker A: Oh, I loved it. [00:11:13] Speaker C: Matt LeBlanc was in that movie. [00:11:16] Speaker B: He was? Wasn't wasn't it? [00:11:19] Speaker A: William hurt too. Isn't he, like, the dad? [00:11:22] Speaker C: Yeah, R-I-P-A. Really young Lacey Chevy was in that movie. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Really? [00:11:31] Speaker C: It was that little girl, the Hallmark queen. [00:11:35] Speaker B: You know, propeller heads is on there. Fatboy Slim is on there. [00:11:39] Speaker A: So it's the Sip of MIMOS soundtrack. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Like I'll say this, it's an abbreviated soundtrack. There's, like, eight songs on it, and the rest is the score from so. [00:11:50] Speaker C: I think you guys need to do an episode on the Lost in Space soundtrack. [00:11:54] Speaker A: I've never actually seen Lost in Space. Gary Oldman is in it. He's a bad guy, right? [00:11:58] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. [00:11:59] Speaker B: He plays the space. [00:12:02] Speaker A: He's the titular space. [00:12:04] Speaker B: That's how good he is. [00:12:07] Speaker A: I feel like he was just always a bad guy in the 90s. [00:12:12] Speaker B: He's Commissioner Gordon. Man well, yeah. In the professional. Holy shit. He's so good in the professional. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Fifth Element. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, with, like, the weird Western accent. Anyways. Oh, Nick, have you seen anything cool, even even if it's not a Disney movie, we always ask each other what we've been watching. [00:12:30] Speaker C: Let's see. Most recently well, on Disney Plus I'm watching Ahsoka. I'm a Star Wars guy. [00:12:35] Speaker B: Okay. How's that working out? [00:12:37] Speaker C: All right. I never watched Rebels, so I'm really lost. [00:12:41] Speaker B: I've heard it's really confusing if you don't know, like, the deep lore. [00:12:44] Speaker C: Yeah, but it's a good show. It's a good Star Wars show. There's lightsabers and stuff. It's awesome. But have the I don't have all the backstory, so I feel left out. [00:12:54] Speaker A: Have you gotten to thrawn? I know he's like, a super fan favorite. [00:12:58] Speaker C: I just finished the first two episodes. That's it. So no, he's not there yet. [00:13:04] Speaker A: That's perfect casting. Rosario Dawson. I missed Rebels and the clone wars as well. I know the character, and I think Rosario's amazing casting. [00:13:15] Speaker C: Who knew that in order to watch Star Wars, you would have had to watch, like, Cartoon Network and Disney XD and all this homework? [00:13:24] Speaker B: I gave up on that. [00:13:26] Speaker A: We've talked about it before, but it's kind of like remember reading comic books in the it was like you would read a panel, and up in the top, it would be like a little text box, and it would say, for reference, check out Sensational Spiderman 363. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Oh, that's a great just do that. That's a great idea. [00:13:43] Speaker A: That's kind of like, what a lot of our favorite shows are like, now you have to go back, watch the TV show. [00:13:52] Speaker C: Yeah. You got to put footnotes on all the Disney plus Star Wars and Marvel stuff. [00:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Nick, when did you first get into the and do you mind the term Disney Adult? Because I know you're a fan. I know you go to the parks, and I know you enjoy the history, clearly in the music and the movies and all that. What are your thoughts, and how did this start for you? [00:14:18] Speaker C: So it started literally at infancy. I grew up in Miami, Florida, so just a few hours away from Walt Disney World. Some of my very first memories were at Disney World. We were annual pass holders. My parents would take us to Disney two or three times a year. We would pile into an RV and stay at the campground at Disney World, Fort Wilderness. So it's been just my entire life of just being a Disney fan. And as far as know a Disney adult, as they say, I don't mind that term. I think it defines me very well. I'm an adult, and I love Disney. I take no offense to that term. [00:14:53] Speaker B: All right. I like that. [00:14:54] Speaker C: Taking it back. [00:14:54] Speaker A: It's kind of a term. [00:14:57] Speaker C: I know there's some shade with that, but whatever. But I love it. And as far as me getting into it as an adult again, I think I really found it as an adult. Around college, I started listening to actually, some other really good podcasts, some that are defunct now, but WEDWay Radio was a podcast, a Disney history podcast that just inspired me, and they were yep. Started listening to, like, Lou Mangello's podcast, WDW radio. And that kind of really getting me into that aspect of Disney Adulting. And then I started just going on my own. And then I met my wife, and we started going to Disney World together. All the so shout out Nick's wife. [00:15:41] Speaker A: She rules. [00:15:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Yes. Lovely. I met her, too. She was at the blank table. Yeah. [00:15:46] Speaker A: The blink know, growing the I mentioned her earlier, but we had the Know Movies classic when we moved, I said, mom, don't give those away. I want them. And now they're in my studio at prize possessions. [00:16:04] Speaker C: Have yours started turning yellow? That yellowish color. [00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:09] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:16:10] Speaker A: I don't know. I kind of had the same experience as I got older. I always had, like, an affinity for especially the 90s stuff, but we'll get into it more. Some of the 80s stuff, too, and going back and researching it's all kind of intertwined. Did you all hear some Studio Ghibli stuff, like references in some of your research? [00:16:31] Speaker C: Yes. I mean, Studio Ghibli was distributed by Disney. They got the distribution rights in the United States. Right? [00:16:40] Speaker A: I think that's what it was. But I know a lot of them were really inspired by Elliot. I know you're a fan. Miyazaki. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah, Miyazaki, sure. [00:16:48] Speaker A: He was a huge inspiration. I love going back and really diving into the meat of this stuff. It's really cool. [00:16:57] Speaker B: Maybe we can talk about it. But they started acquiring a lot of what is now referred to as content and releasing it and all that. [00:17:05] Speaker A: IP. [00:17:06] Speaker B: IP. [00:17:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:07] Speaker C: Intellectual property. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Intellectual property. [00:17:10] Speaker C: Thanks, Bob. Iger the acquisition guy. We'll start it with Michael Eisner. But, Bob, iger legacy, man. [00:17:17] Speaker A: How about you? What was your experience growing up with the films of Disney? [00:17:22] Speaker B: Yeah, we had the clamshells they were ever present in our home we lived in Weren't. Like, when I moved out of Florida as a know, I moved to Michigan, and people asked, like, oh, did you go? Like, every day. I'm like, well, no, it's not right. Um, but yeah, it was a thing. But was Mary Poppins? Is that Disney? [00:17:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:54] Speaker B: Okay. Some of it's a little blurry for me. Also, in recent years, they've acquired everything, so even Marvel is Disney, Fox is Disney, but we're a Time Machine podcast, so yeah. Watching those movies as a kid, I sure loved Robin Hood with the Foxes, but that's like 78 or something. 73. [00:18:18] Speaker C: 73. [00:18:21] Speaker B: When the animation had some scratches on it and all that. [00:18:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:26] Speaker B: I recently watched 101 Dalmatians. It looks fantastic. It looks like a Burt Baccarat cover. It looks so cool. I love the colors are amazing. And then they kind of stopped for a minute. Right? I think after Sleeping Beauty, they stopped doing stuff or something like feature links. Yeah, it was around World War II. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Right, is when a lot of artists. [00:18:51] Speaker C: Went to the army. Yeah, the studio started being used. They were outsourcing the animators, I guess, to make propaganda films to support the war effort. And you mentioned Sleeping Beauty. Let me just say there's a really great documentary you should watch called Waking Sleeping Beauty, and it's about exactly what you're talking about. The animation side of Disney kind of slowing down, going under, and then what ended up happening with the Disney Renaissance, the 90s Disney movies. [00:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:27] Speaker C: Great documentary. Go watch it. I'll have to check that. [00:19:31] Speaker A: I've been in a real big documentary phase, so I'm adding that to my letterbox. Do you use letterbox? [00:19:39] Speaker C: No. What's Letterbox? [00:19:41] Speaker A: It's essentially like a movie and TV show Categorizing App, where you can kind of record pretty much every movie that you've ever watched. You can rate them and comment on them and stuff like that. It's pretty cool. [00:19:56] Speaker B: You can critique movies as you watch them, and then your friends can spy on your viewing habits. [00:20:01] Speaker C: I like, try. I'm going to try to find it's pretty cool. [00:20:05] Speaker B: Oh, you got to make your oh, okay. So big Disney fan from the jump. How many trips have you made to the parks? And do you like World or Land more? [00:20:17] Speaker C: Let's see. More trips than I can count. And I'm a big Disney World guy just because that's my home. I consider Magic Kingdom my home park, but Disneyland is quaint and beautiful and amazing. But I'm a Disney World guy at heart. I love Epcot. Hollywood Studios, Animal Kingdom, all of it. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Epcot, man. Wow. Epcot still around. Still kicking. [00:20:40] Speaker C: It is, man. Let's go drink. Around the world. [00:20:43] Speaker B: Yeah. I remember I went to Epcot once as a kid and tried, like, wantons for the first time. And it shattered my. [00:20:51] Speaker A: Cool memory. [00:20:53] Speaker B: Oh, it's great. They were flat. I don't know. Maybe they weren't wantons. Maybe I just was picking up cigarette. [00:21:02] Speaker A: I don't know if I've told the story on the show, but my first concert ever that I can remember actually took place in Disney World at the House of Was, uh, when it was still Downtown Disney. There was a stage. I think it was right across the street, right across the way from the World of Disney Store. And we went still there. The stage right stage is still there. And so we went, and my mom and sister stayed at the hotel, and my dad and I went to Downtown Disney, and there was a cover band playing called All Stars or Eighty s All Stars. And they played 80 songs. And I just remember the guitar player was just like, shredding. The part that sticks out the most is the singer was like, okay, now our guitar player is going to do a hair solo. And so the guitar player walks up to the front of the stage and fluffs his hair, and he walks back, and they were like, all right, give it up for our guitar player. And that's like, my first musical live music memory. Weirdly. There was eighty s All Stars at Downtown Disney. [00:22:09] Speaker C: At Downtown Disney. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Interesting. The amount of property they own in Florida is staggering. [00:22:19] Speaker C: Still room. They can still add more things. [00:22:22] Speaker A: Well, you kind of touched on it earlier, but Disney now owns Marvel, and I love it. And Fox, because I don't know if y'all saw this, but they're dropping a Wolverine versus Predator comic sometime in the near future. Interesting, two of my favorites. I'm very excited for it. One can't be killed. What was that? [00:22:43] Speaker C: You must be excited for Wolverine and Deadpool. [00:22:46] Speaker A: Very. [00:22:48] Speaker B: Double three looks to be a fun time at the movies. [00:22:51] Speaker A: I'm a sucker for, like, a crossover, which is what we're doing tonight with our show. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Hey, look at that. [00:22:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Segue. [00:23:00] Speaker A: Okay, so normally Elliot and I will give each other an album, 90s rock or electronica. But we're putting that onto our guest tonight. And I can't imagine anyone better suited to handle the task, even though after listening and looking at the amount of movies that came out in 90s, it's kind of an unenviable one. So we asked Nick to pick three songs, three of his favorite songs from the from the Disney decades. We're going to call those the Eras the Eras songs. [00:23:40] Speaker B: Legacy. [00:23:41] Speaker A: The legacy songs. Yeah. So Nick made us a playlist, and let's go ahead and dive in. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Which should we? I don't know. Here we go. How does Peter Pan say it? [00:23:55] Speaker A: Here we go. [00:23:58] Speaker C: That was good, right? [00:23:59] Speaker A: That was perfect. [00:24:00] Speaker B: We got the right guy. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Let's do it. Ready? [00:24:04] Speaker B: Here. [00:24:08] Speaker A: We were, like, harmonizing there. That sounded good. [00:24:11] Speaker B: Second moon on the left, and then until Waffle House or whatever. [00:24:17] Speaker C: I don't know where you're going, man? [00:24:19] Speaker B: What's the line? I forget. Line. [00:24:21] Speaker C: Second start of the right and straight on till morning. Elliot got lost on the way to. [00:24:28] Speaker B: But I found a Waffle House, so I'm fine. [00:24:30] Speaker C: It's all good. [00:24:30] Speaker A: All right, so, Nick, did you have any one song you wanted to start with? [00:24:38] Speaker C: Well, since you gave me three songs from the figured I'd go in chronological order. Okay. [00:24:45] Speaker A: Love that. [00:24:46] Speaker C: All right. So like you said, 90s Disney songs is, like, the peak, like, the pinnacle of all Disney music. So yes, that was extremely hard. Thanks for that. [00:24:56] Speaker B: This is the Renaissance now, right? This is Disney Renaissance. Howard Ashman Menken era. [00:25:03] Speaker C: You are absolutely correct. Except, boom, I ended up kind of going in a very personal direction for me. So not all of the songs I picked were Alan Menken songs. Okay, sure. So I'm going to start off with 1995 is the year the Goof Troop has been off the air for about or maybe it's still on the air, I don't know. This movie took place three years after The Goof Troop movie is called A Goofy Movie, and the song I'm talking about is Eye to Eye. Eye to eye. Written by Patrick De. Remus or reamer. I can't even read my own handwriting. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Jake's got it on Picture Disc over here. He's showing off. [00:25:45] Speaker C: I love that. I love that. [00:25:47] Speaker B: Brag, brag, brag. [00:25:49] Speaker C: All right. I picked this song because, number one, it's one of the most iconic 90s Disney songs ever. And number two, I know that Jake is a Goofy Movie stan, over here. [00:26:03] Speaker B: I'm familiar as well. I've gathered. [00:26:05] Speaker A: Love the goofy movie. Just off camera, I have a powerline pop. That's one of my prized possessions. I love it. I love it. Okay, go on. [00:26:14] Speaker C: Spectacular. All right, so I was looking up this song because obviously it's just a fantastic, great song. But I wanted to learn more about it and be able to talk about it on this show. And so it's performed by Tevin Campbell and Rosie Gaines. And something interesting you may know that Tevin Campbell was like a 90s pop star. He put out his own debut album called T-E-V-I-N Tevin. All Caps. And he had a song called tell me what you Want me to do that peaked at number six on billboard. This was all before Goofy Movie, but I feel like in my brain, at least, Goofy Movie is what made know who he is to me anyways, because that song, Eye to Eye, as well as the other songs stand out, are just spectacular songs. Did you know that Tevin Campbell worked with Quincy Jones? That was one of the first things he did when he got signed. [00:27:08] Speaker B: Quincy Jones? [00:27:10] Speaker A: Well, the powerline character, the one that sings eye to eye, he's kind of like a Michael Jackson type figure for the right, right. [00:27:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:21] Speaker B: Is that portrayed by Tevin in voice as well as singing? [00:27:25] Speaker C: I don't think he has any speaking lines in the movie. I think he only sings. [00:27:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So, full disclosure, I am not familiar with the Goofy Movie. Okay. [00:27:35] Speaker C: So the plot of the movie is goofy wants to bond with his teenage son Max and wants to take him out on a road trip to go fishing. But Max finds out that his favorite artist power line is playing a concert somewhere else. And so comedy ensues as Goofy wants to go one way, Max wants to go the other way. Fantastic song. The other thing that's interesting I thought you guys would like is Rosie Gaines, who does backup vocals on this song. She was part of a band called the New Power Generation. Do you guys know what band that is? [00:28:09] Speaker A: Oh, that's prince. [00:28:10] Speaker C: That's prince's band. [00:28:11] Speaker B: You got it. What the hell? Prince and MJ connections. Because Prince Jones made goddamn thriller. Dude. Dude. [00:28:20] Speaker C: Yeah. So Eye to Eye obviously a fantastic song because they have all this talent on there. And it's just one of, I think, the standout songs of the 90s. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Wow. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Absolutely. If you're not familiar with Goof Movie, this is a song, the big climax, where Max, Goofy's son, and Goofy join powerline on stage. Max is like he's a high school kid trying to fit in. He tells his crush that he's going to the big Powerline concert that's on pay per view in Hollywood and that he's going to join powerline on stage because his dad knows powerline. Spoiler. That's not true. Goofy does not know powerline, but it's great. Oh, man, Kevin Campbell sings the heck out of this one. And it's one of my all time. It's why I own this picture disc. [00:29:19] Speaker C: I need to get my hands on that picture disc, man. So this song, or this movie actually was nominated for best Music, not Grammys, not anything like that it was the Annie Awards, which is the International Animated Film Association Awards. Nominated. Didn't win. Probably should have. [00:29:40] Speaker B: What was it up against? Do you know that? [00:29:42] Speaker C: That I do not know. 95. [00:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:47] Speaker C: What great movies were in 95? [00:29:49] Speaker A: Balto. [00:29:50] Speaker C: Balto. I have a Balto connection for another song that you're going to like. It all comes together. [00:29:58] Speaker A: Pocahontas is also 95. [00:30:00] Speaker B: Okay, yeah. Goofy Movie is not going to go up against Pocahontas, though, right? [00:30:07] Speaker A: Nick, would you say Goofy Movie is kind of like a cult movie as far as, like, Disney movies? [00:30:12] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So we were talking about theme parks earlier. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Rock and Roller Coaster, the attraction at Hollywood Studios currently, it has a soundtrack. It's a roller coaster aerosmith one. Yeah, the whole soundtrack is Aerosmith. It's incredible. They're going to lose their contract with Aerosmith pretty soon, so they've been tossing around ideas for what to replace it with. Now the rumor is that they want to replace it with Muppets Mayhem. [00:30:46] Speaker B: But the fandom I like that muppet. [00:30:49] Speaker C: The fandom has been crying out to make this a power line ride. If it's a cult. Yes, it is absolutely a cult classic. [00:30:59] Speaker A: We were at Digimon earlier this year, and one of the folks there said that they were losing the license with Aerosmith. And we got to thinking, like, what other rock band could they be? Rock and roller coaster open. What, like late 90s? [00:31:20] Speaker C: Yeah, late 90s. [00:31:21] Speaker A: So, I mean, 20 years from like 20 plus years from when Aerosmiths dropped their first album, I was just kind of like Green Day. Can you imagine the Green Day coaster? [00:31:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I could see that. Disney doesn't like to play outside of their own sandbox. That's why they keep putting things in their sandbox. So I feel like that's part of the reason the Aerosmith thing is going away and that's why they're looking at Muppets, which I think could be mean. Well, anything. Power line. So I was talking about this with my wife, and we came up with, like, a cool backstory and everything. Imagine this takes place after Goofy Movie, and Max has grown up, and now he works as, like, a PA or something for powerline. Right, and Powerline's making his big comeback tour. And that could be, like, the story for the ride. Make it relevant, make it drive. [00:32:14] Speaker A: Goofy's driving everyone to the concert. That's good. I like that. [00:32:18] Speaker C: That's fantastic. Right? And have Kevin Campbell make a new song. [00:32:22] Speaker B: What if it's like the National Ride? And it's just more like, oh, I enjoy tea, and I wanted to be quiet for my books. [00:32:32] Speaker A: It's a very mellow roller coaster, and. [00:32:35] Speaker B: It just kind of spirals around slowly. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Slow it down. I would like that. [00:32:41] Speaker B: No good. [00:32:42] Speaker A: I can do that. [00:32:43] Speaker C: Kitty coaster. [00:32:43] Speaker B: I thought we were just coming up with ideas. [00:32:46] Speaker A: I like it. [00:32:47] Speaker B: I like it, too. [00:32:48] Speaker C: There was an. Idea back a while ago to there was an idea. There was an idea. Not the Avengers, but I've lost interest. They were going to rethink rock and roller coaster to Disney. What's that? Radio Disney. Radio Disney. Can you imagine? Like a Hannah Montana. Jonas brothers coaster. I know. I personally love Jonas Brothers, and I'm about to see them in, like, a few weeks. [00:33:12] Speaker A: So I will be there too. [00:33:15] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Five albums one night, man. [00:33:20] Speaker A: Have you seen that set list? It's crazy. [00:33:24] Speaker B: It's like, of course, Disney Mcgitter of the Aerosmith Coaster. What age group are they aiming for? [00:33:30] Speaker A: Right? [00:33:31] Speaker B: Kids don't love Sweet Emotion or whatever. I don't know. Lock Taylor Swift down and then you've got a bazillion dollar idea. [00:33:41] Speaker C: There you go. Yeah. [00:33:43] Speaker B: Taylor Swift. A coaster. I don't know. [00:33:45] Speaker A: The Fearless coaster. Oh, man. [00:33:47] Speaker C: That writes itself. [00:33:50] Speaker B: You're just bumping into ex boyfriends like, oh, no. [00:33:55] Speaker C: So I guess the debate is which is a better song, eye to Eye or Stand Out? What do you think? [00:34:01] Speaker A: Well, we tried to cover Standout one time. We did. [00:34:05] Speaker C: We attempted that. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Never had a show, but I thought it sounded good. [00:34:10] Speaker B: That's the sweetest thing. [00:34:11] Speaker A: I think they're very different standout. You have all the characters singing, like, no more algebra test till September. [00:34:23] Speaker C: All the school is that the same song? [00:34:25] Speaker B: Stand out? [00:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Is it? [00:34:28] Speaker C: I feel like that's the song before standout in the movie where school's out and everyone's maxi the geek. School's out, but then they have to go to an assembly. It's where Max is, like, pretending to be Power Line, trying to impress girl. [00:34:46] Speaker A: She swoons and he goes, Stay safe. Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, baby this nerd trying to look cool. I think Eye to Eye is the superior song. That's tough. [00:34:57] Speaker C: I think the Eye to Eye is great. [00:34:59] Speaker A: Did y'all see the guy, the actor from Holes? I wish. I was just looking him. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Shia LaBeouf. [00:35:07] Speaker A: Zero. [00:35:12] Speaker B: How's Shia doing? [00:35:13] Speaker A: Cleo Thomas, the actor that played Zero, he won, like, a Mortal Kombat tournament while dressed up as Powerline. [00:35:23] Speaker C: I did see that on Instagram. Yes. [00:35:25] Speaker B: Oh, I think I saw something about that, too. I didn't even get the reference. But I'm like, Jake would love this shit. [00:35:34] Speaker A: This movie is like, what, 28 years old now and it's still popping up. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Do we love Goofy as a character? What is the archetype of the Goofy character? [00:35:48] Speaker C: The single dad making it work and fumbling everything but still being awesome. [00:35:55] Speaker B: Okay, I should probably watch the Goofy movies. [00:35:59] Speaker A: I've always really loved the Goof movies. So when you brought this one to talk about, I was really excited. It's funny. Like, as a kid, I was a big Mickey guy, I think, still am. But as I've grown up, I really have come to really love Goofy. He was in one of my favorite shorts is The Art of Skiing. [00:36:20] Speaker C: I believe it's all those, like, how to shorts. [00:36:25] Speaker A: There are these hilarious videos and it's like he gets up and puts on his ski pants and it's like Goofy trying to ski. I love actually I have a button up, like, bowling shirt with Goofy on it from artist skiing and I'm waiting for the right time to drop. [00:36:48] Speaker B: That sounds like that sounds like a Looney Tunes bit. That sounds like a Winner Brothers thing. Nick was there an era where they were trying to kind of like, we need some fall boys. We need some. [00:37:02] Speaker C: They they had Mickey Mouse and Mickey Mouse was kind of the straight man. They needed someone who, know, take a fall, know, laugh at not have it not be Mickey. Because Mickey ended up being the face. [00:37:16] Speaker B: Of the and he's like, infallible it's. Like watching Mickey Mouse fall down wouldn't be that funny somehow because that's another way the character is portrayed. Yeah. [00:37:26] Speaker C: Which is kind of weird that you say that because then they just released these series of shorts relatively recently of Mickey Mouse shorts where Mickey is the zany one and he does all this crazy stuff. And actually the voice actor who plays Mickey bret Iwin he told like, part of my job as being Mickey is defending the integrity of the character. And I don't feel like this is a good move for Mickey. So they said, okay. And they got someone else to be. [00:37:56] Speaker B: Mickey for those shorts and they did. Mickey's been in trouble with dancing brooms and stuff before, but doesn't he always kind of figure it like he's just like right. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. [00:38:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Good stuff. [00:38:13] Speaker A: Are those the ones with that new animation style? [00:38:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Very like Ren and that's really that's. [00:38:19] Speaker A: A good oh, like the runaway railroad. [00:38:25] Speaker C: Runaway railway. [00:38:27] Speaker A: Runaway railroad. I can't say it. [00:38:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Chris Diamantopoulos is the voice of Mickey in those he was in the Three Stooges remake. One of the stooges. [00:38:37] Speaker B: My kid really likes Mickey Mouse clubhouse. [00:38:40] Speaker C: That's. Bret iwin they kept the other guy around to do like, the kid friendly stuff. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Okay, got it. So for the aged up kids, we can have Mickey Mouse fall down or whatever or shit his pants. All right, great. Cool. [00:38:56] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. [00:38:57] Speaker A: You know who Chris Diamondopoulos is from? He is the camera guy that falls in love with Pam in the Office. [00:39:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Oh, he's the guy that's the guy from Silicon Valley with the three Apostrophes or Commas. Yes, because I have $3 billion or whatever the hell it is. That's a good actor. But I don't see him playing Mickey. That's kind of OD. [00:39:28] Speaker C: Yeah, he's mickey. Look up on YouTube some videos of him doing the Voice. It's crazy. [00:39:32] Speaker B: What's it sound like? Is it weird? [00:39:34] Speaker C: I mean, it sounds like Mickey, but like a really anxious Mickey. [00:39:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:39:42] Speaker A: Like neurotic kind of like yeah. [00:39:46] Speaker B: When was Fantasia? Nick is that like 70? [00:39:51] Speaker C: No, that's way earlier than that. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Let's go back way earlier than 79. [00:39:56] Speaker A: I'm going to say 45. [00:39:57] Speaker B: It's not 45. [00:39:59] Speaker C: Not 1940. No, it is. [00:40:06] Speaker B: 1940. [00:40:08] Speaker C: They rereleased it called Fantasia 2000. Maybe that's what you're thinking. That was like Fantasia original 1940. [00:40:16] Speaker B: Holy shit. The talent. But I don't think Mickey spoke in that one, did he? He's only in one sequence. [00:40:22] Speaker C: He's in the yeah. The Sorcerer Broom sequence. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Sorcerer's Apprentice. Yeah. [00:40:27] Speaker C: And by Sorcerer's Apprentice, I don't mean the Nicolas Cage movie. [00:40:31] Speaker A: Remember that. All right, so continuing on with the you've got, you know, firing on cylinders, kicked off with Little Mermaid. And it's just like a best up. But you've got your Aladdin, you've got Beauty and the Beast, nominated for best picture, first and Only Time. [00:40:50] Speaker B: That was a big idea. I think they reworked their whole plan. [00:40:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And then you're Lion King. So in 1997, another movie comes out, another personal favorite. Man, I just watched this like a couple of weeks ago, and Nick hadn't even told us the song that he picked. But I'm very excited. Nick, take us 97. What was your next movie? [00:41:10] Speaker C: Next 1997, alan Menken wrote he's been writing Disney movies for this whole decade, basically. And he comes out with Hercules and the Banger. That is Go the Distance, performed by Roger Bart. And Alan Menken wrote the lyrics. Music written by David Zipple, who also wrote music for yeah. I don't know if you guys know a lot about Roger Bart, the voice of Hercules, but he's gone on to do some fantastic things since Hercules. We'll talk more about Hercules in a minute. But let me just say there's a connection to one of my favorite or my number one favorite movie of all time, back to the Future. He plays Emmett Brown in the Broadway production of Back to the Future. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:42:05] Speaker C: It's pretty awesome. And then they were going to make a Hercules musical in 2019, and he ended up being cast as Hades. And that musical performed a little bit but never really got picked up. [00:42:20] Speaker B: I heard about this. There was like a little, like yeah, inside over switched the roles with these guys. [00:42:26] Speaker C: Yeah. So that would have been cool. I would have watched that. [00:42:29] Speaker B: But I'm going to send you back to the future. How do you sing in that voice? If you're doing Doc Brown, you can go. [00:42:37] Speaker A: You've got to that's terrible. [00:42:39] Speaker B: That was not bad. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:42:42] Speaker B: Tell me ZZ Top shows up. [00:42:45] Speaker C: I would love that. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Right. [00:42:47] Speaker C: Spin their guitars. Western wear. The song I picked is Go the Distance, and this was a personal favorite of mine since forever. I grew up loving this song. So the song is the I want song of is, you know, trying to find out where he belongs. That's a line in the song. And I grew up as a really shy kid, and so this song resonated with me, this idea of like, I'm going to find a place where I belong where people want to be around me. And I'm comfortable with that. And that's kind of the theme of this song. And it's the turning point of the whole movie. That's the point where he meets Zeus and gets sent on his quest to go and become Hercules. And it's just a beautiful, amazing song. [00:43:39] Speaker B: It is really impressive how all these songs kind of fit the narrative in a special way, because a lot of these movies start with the Men working song, like Hi Ho, Hi Ho, or even to Frozen. We are guys like Gather Ice and then I don't think I did that one. Right. That's like a trope in all these movies. And then there's Secluded Person, like, I wish I was out there, or I wish I was doing this. And then there's the Love song, and then maybe the I Did It song. Am I missing something, Nick? [00:44:18] Speaker C: No, I think you pretty much nailed. When Alan Menken came along to kind of write this music for Disney, he would come off of writing Little Shop of Horrors, right? [00:44:32] Speaker B: 82. [00:44:33] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. And so him and Howard Ashman, his writing partner, they had this idea that the Disney movie should be written like a musical, so the songs are going to push the narrative. So, Howard Ashman, Alan Manken, the dream team, they wrote Little Mermaid, and it was a huge hit. And then every subsequent movie after that was following that pattern of having the intro song, like you said, and the I Want song, the villain song. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Villain song. Yeah. That's what I missed. [00:45:09] Speaker A: Would it be a leap to say that much of the because so much of the Disney renaissance is aside from this gorgeous new animation style where they started incorporating computer effects and everything, but so much of what people remember, I feel, is the music. Do you think is is the guy you think he's the one that yeah. [00:45:32] Speaker C: I mean, back in the day before, when Walt was still around, walt's writing team was the Sherman brothers. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Right. [00:45:40] Speaker C: Richard and Robert Sherman. And they once they started moving on to these newer things and Robert Sherman passed away, and Richard Sherman, he's still around, but he's really old. And so they got to put that. [00:45:58] Speaker A: They got Schwartzman and right. [00:46:00] Speaker C: Or saving Mr. Banks. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Saving Mr. Banks. [00:46:03] Speaker C: So they always had this writing team that would kind of really pull these movies along. You mentioned earlier. You know, the Sherman brothers wrote Mary Poppins, and they wrote all these Disney Park songs. Small World, Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow from Carousel Progress. So, yeah, they were the guys. [00:46:24] Speaker B: Once. [00:46:24] Speaker C: Disney ended up getting Alan Maconken and Howard Ashman. They were the guys. Howard Ashman died not too long later after working on Beauty and the Beast. He died before Beauty and the Beast premiered. [00:46:36] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:46:37] Speaker C: Yeah. He never got to see Beauty and the Beast, but Alan Manken kept going, and he had different writing people that would write with him. But it was never that. Like lightning in a bottle. That was him and Howard Ashman. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Wow. [00:46:51] Speaker B: And then he was, like, infusing Broadway stuff into this, right? [00:46:56] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. That was their whole idea. The way that they started the Disney Renaissance was let's make these animated features Broadway musicals for kids. Yeah. So yeah. This was 1997. Hercules was 1997 after Howard Ashman. So it was Alan Manken and David Zipple. This whole film had some great, great songs in it. They had those the Muses singing. They originally wanted to get Destiny's Child to do that part, I guess. Too expensive or too busy. [00:47:26] Speaker B: I heard it was Spice Girls. [00:47:30] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:47:31] Speaker A: It was one of those different movie for sure. [00:47:33] Speaker B: Are there three or five of them? [00:47:37] Speaker C: Five of them. [00:47:38] Speaker A: Wait. [00:47:38] Speaker C: How many Spice Girls? [00:47:39] Speaker B: All right. [00:47:40] Speaker C: How many Destiny's Children are there? [00:47:43] Speaker A: I think at 1.4. [00:47:46] Speaker B: We don't talk about that fourth one. We don't talk about that fourth one. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Wow. That would have been a different movie because it would have just been like that's what you would have remember, like, hearing the Spice Girls or Destiny's Child. It would have been cool. But I don't know. I love the muses. Whoever ended up singing, they were wonderful. [00:48:08] Speaker C: Yeah, they were great. So this song, Go the Distance, was nominated for an Academy Award and the Golden Globe for best original song. And it lost out to a song. I actually do know which one it lost out to this time. One of the biggest songs of ever. But 1997, celine Dion. [00:48:27] Speaker B: Was it Titanic? [00:48:28] Speaker C: It was Titanic. [00:48:29] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:48:31] Speaker A: I mean, you can't beat that song we talked about. Are you familiar with Elliot Smith? Nick? Elliot Smith. He did the music for like, goodwill hunting. He was like a legendary indie rock, kind of like, acoustic artist. He was up that year also. [00:48:52] Speaker B: We've talked about 97 a lot because there was a huge boom for electronica music. And that's a busy year. Wow. [00:49:01] Speaker C: It was this song was covered. Do you guys know who covered Go the Distance? [00:49:08] Speaker A: Is it Michael Bolton? [00:49:09] Speaker C: It was Michael Bolton. Michael Bolton was personally chosen by Alan Menken. That was his choice to do the COVID of that song. [00:49:20] Speaker B: Okay. [00:49:20] Speaker C: And of course, then there was a Spanish cover of the song. Do you know who covered that? Who did the Spanish cover? [00:49:25] Speaker A: Ricky Martin. [00:49:26] Speaker C: It was Ricky Martin. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Jake, he's on that 1000. [00:49:31] Speaker C: It's his show. He should know this, though. It's your guys'show. [00:49:38] Speaker B: What is this? [00:49:43] Speaker C: Elliot, did you know that it was Michael Bolton and no, I didn't. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Ricky Martin? No. [00:49:47] Speaker A: I haven't seen you're a noted Michael Bolton head. [00:49:50] Speaker B: I am a bold head. Yeah. [00:49:54] Speaker C: Not the character from Office Boy. [00:49:58] Speaker B: No, I'm a fan of that guy. Not the singer songwriter. You can just call me Mike. There we go. [00:50:08] Speaker C: That's 1997 in a nutshell for you, man. Michael Bolton, ricky Martin, alan man. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:50:15] Speaker A: So, Hercules, one of the things I found really interesting is a lot of those, like, 89 to shoot, maybe even 96. They're, like, full blown voice actors. I feel. I could be wrong, but Hercules, you got some star power in there. You have Riptorn playing voicing. Zeus. James Wood. As Hades. And one of my faves, Danny DeVito. [00:50:42] Speaker C: As Phil's trainer Philip TDs. [00:50:46] Speaker B: Phil. [00:50:46] Speaker A: Thank you. Yes. [00:50:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:48] Speaker A: Is this one of the first times that Disney put famous actors in their. [00:50:54] Speaker C: Movies to voice as voice actors or like, to sing songs? Because we had, like, Oliver and Company where we had Billy Joel. [00:51:03] Speaker A: That's right. Bette Midler. [00:51:04] Speaker B: Right. [00:51:04] Speaker A: Was another one. [00:51:05] Speaker B: Well, Robin Williams, I would say. Right. [00:51:08] Speaker C: That was before. [00:51:09] Speaker A: That's true. Oh, James Earl Jones, too. You know what? [00:51:12] Speaker B: And Matthew Broderick. And that's Nathan Lane. [00:51:17] Speaker A: Jim. [00:51:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:19] Speaker A: So Jim Roth. [00:51:20] Speaker B: Well, how about that as a question? Like, when did they start doing, like, celeb voice actress? [00:51:25] Speaker A: That's an awesome question, because Latin is 92. [00:51:28] Speaker C: Yeah. Had Robin Williams. Hassle the guy from that sitcom. Oh, my goodness. Aladdin. The voice of Aladdin was the guy from that sitcom. [00:51:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Full House. [00:51:42] Speaker C: Full House. Thank you. [00:51:45] Speaker B: He's like the boyfriend in Full House. [00:51:47] Speaker C: Or like I remember that in the Disney World episode, he is like, Aladdin. Like a parade or something. Remember that? That was crazy. [00:51:57] Speaker A: I never knew that. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Yeah, man. You recognize the guy? [00:52:01] Speaker A: Yes. [00:52:02] Speaker C: The more you know. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Oh, and Gilbert Gottfrey was yago in that one? [00:52:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:09] Speaker C: A lot of celebrities. That's the 90s. That's 90s Disney, man. [00:52:13] Speaker A: That's something. I guess it was just maybe the 90s as a whole they started sprinkling them in there. Because now I feel you have Justin Timberlake, Voicing, trolls. It's nothing but big Hollywood actors. [00:52:26] Speaker B: Trolls is a Disney, though, right? That's like some DreamWorks bullshit, right? [00:52:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. [00:52:34] Speaker B: DreamWorks bullshit. Episode title. [00:52:40] Speaker C: You guys curse on this show? Are we allowed to curse on the show? Is that a thing? [00:52:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Jake politely does not, but I do. Is that all right? [00:52:49] Speaker C: I don't care. I don't know if Mickey will care. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Well, it is Jake's show, apparently, so we'll have to ask Jake. [00:52:58] Speaker C: Jake featuring Elliot Guest. [00:53:03] Speaker B: My guest never is Elliot. [00:53:10] Speaker C: The reoccurring guest. Ruada that's your episode title. Jake plus two. [00:53:23] Speaker A: Not I'm not for that. None of this I'm staying out of. [00:53:29] Speaker C: And you said you went to Disney World recently, Jake. And if you watch the fireworks show, this song is one of the songs that plays in the medley during the show, and it's fantastic. [00:53:41] Speaker A: What is the show called? Like, excursions or fireworks show? [00:53:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Happily ever after. [00:53:46] Speaker A: Happily ever after excursions. I was not even close. [00:53:54] Speaker C: It's a travel agent for it pitch on the castle. [00:53:58] Speaker B: It's like we've unlocked the doors. You can leave now. Like, oh, cool. Fireworks. As you know. [00:54:08] Speaker A: What was it before happily ever after? [00:54:10] Speaker C: It was wishes. Wishes. [00:54:14] Speaker A: It was wishes. Okay. I knew there was a one word excursions. [00:54:19] Speaker C: That's the new Epcot show. It ties into going around the world. Disney, if you're listening, proceeds go to sipping Memos podcast. All right. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Okay. So after 97, after game changing electronica albums and Oscar nominated Disney songs are being dropped, that next year. 98 not on our list, but another one came out. You've got Bugs Life, one of my personal favorites, also played that in the schoolyard. And then 99, something happens. It's the last year of the decade, and Disney decides to go back in a lot of ways and remake a classic. Nick, what's your third song on this playlist? [00:55:10] Speaker C: 1999, Phil Collins did the soundtrack for Tarzan and the World was not the same since then. It's one of the best Disney soundtracks ever. And we were talking a lot about Alan Menk and all this stuff, and he really made the Disney Renaissance what it was. But the way to end the renaissance in 99 with Phil Collins, incredible. It was absolutely incredible. Several songs in this movie, the song I picked is You'll Be in My Heart, which is referred to as the lullaby of the movie. And, yeah, it happens kind of early on in the movie where Tarzan is found by the apes and the mother ape sings a song to Tarzan. But the version that I picked as my favorite song, it's probably my favorite song of the 90s, disney anyways, is the one by Bill Collins because there's the movie version. And then I think Glenn Close is the voice in the movie. She sings as part of it, too. And so then there's the version from the soundtrack from the credits, one that everyone knows. It became a radio single. It won best original song of the Academy Award. It's just a banger of a song. And it actually beat out that year when she loved me from Toy Story, too. Sarah McLaughlin. Yeah. But anyway, so this soundtrack was a big comeback for Phil Collins. I was doing some research and I found something I didn't know. He actually left Genesis in 1996. And part of that reason was so that he can work on Tarzan. [00:56:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought it was Gabriel. Peter Gabriel was a dickhead or whatever. [00:56:56] Speaker C: Well, I'm sure that's part of it, too. Maybe he just tells people. [00:57:02] Speaker B: I got Peter Gabriel in one hand, I got Tarzan in the other. [00:57:05] Speaker C: I'm like, what should I tell the. [00:57:07] Speaker B: Public who's got the better ABS? I'm going Tarzan. [00:57:12] Speaker C: When Disney was trying to know who would write the music for know animated adaptation of Tarze Fan, they looked to Phil because of his drumming experience. They were thinking, big jungle course. [00:57:26] Speaker B: Of course they would. [00:57:27] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. So that's what it was. So they got Phil Collins, and then they were thinking, well, we don't want Tarzan to we think, you know, having a shirtless guy swinging around and then singing while swinging is kind of weird. So they got Phil Collins to kind of do like a narrator kind of role. And that's what's different about this. We were talking earlier about how the other Disney movies, the songs were sung by the characters, and it was moving the story along. This is kind of the inner thoughts of the characters being sung by Phil Collins. And if my inner thoughts can be sung by anybody, I would pick Phil Collins. [00:58:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:04] Speaker B: Diegetic. They call it Larry. Yeah. When the songs are telling the story but the characters can't hear it, they. [00:58:12] Speaker C: Uh, they got the idea to do this specifically for this movie because of how successful Toy Story was with Randy Newman and the way that those songs worked in that movie. [00:58:23] Speaker B: Diegetic right, exactly. [00:58:25] Speaker C: That's the word of the day. [00:58:26] Speaker B: I like, that interesting. [00:58:29] Speaker C: So they did it that way for this movie, and it obviously worked. And so Phil wrote, you'll be in my heart. He actually wrote it for his daughter Lily. Lily Collins. You may know from that show on Netflix, emily in Paris. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Oh, emily in Paris. That's right. [00:58:47] Speaker C: Yeah. So he wrote this song as a lullaby for his daughter, and of course, it became one of the biggest songs of the movie. Other songs in the movie, you have, like, Strangers like Me and Son of man, all fantastic songs. [00:59:01] Speaker A: Y'all kind of opened my eyes to that, especially for Tarzan, because it's know, there's parts where they'll be talking and then the next know, they're like, walking through the forest. And then Phil Collins is singing. He's like, letting you know what's going on, what the characters are thinking. That's really cool. And then I didn't even pick up. I've seen Toy Story 30 times, but Randy Newman's doing the exact same thing. My mind is shattered. [00:59:30] Speaker C: I love it. Once there were some toys and they. [00:59:34] Speaker B: Were friends, and now they're not. They better figure it out by the end of the movie. [00:59:41] Speaker A: That was good. [00:59:42] Speaker C: That was good. [00:59:44] Speaker B: I think that was Tom Waits. I don't know. [00:59:49] Speaker A: I watched Tarzan in preparation for this one. And, man, that movie. [00:59:54] Speaker C: Know, a lot. [00:59:55] Speaker A: Of people talk about Know being like, devastating. [00:59:58] Speaker B: Oh, my God, it absolutely is. [01:00:01] Speaker A: But, man, I forgot how sad Tarzan opens. [01:00:04] Speaker B: Well, every Disney movie has to have, like, know, impactful. It's the hero's journey. You got to have something traumatic to happen to set your character off on that journey. [01:00:15] Speaker A: Right. [01:00:16] Speaker B: A lot of parents die. It's Batman. Bambi is the same thing, supposedly. Thumper is Robin. It's right there in front of you. Put it together, guys. [01:00:31] Speaker C: I want to see that. [01:00:32] Speaker B: I can't do this all for you, listeners. [01:00:37] Speaker C: Supposedly, and this is strictly hearsay. One of the reasons that so many parents die in Disney movies is because Walt felt guilty because his parents died in a house that he bought for them. And it was because there was some sort of gas leak and he felt guilty that he bought the house for them. Something like that. [01:00:59] Speaker A: That's what people say. [01:01:01] Speaker B: Oh, jeez, I just brought this down. Real oh, you changed the mood, man. [01:01:06] Speaker A: We're having the real conversation tonight. [01:01:09] Speaker C: Well, I can bring it back up earlier. [01:01:12] Speaker B: No, let's sit in this for a minute. Okay, I'm done. All right. [01:01:19] Speaker C: So earlier I don't know if this will get cut or not, but earlier we mentioned Balto, and I promised a Balto connection coming up here's my Balto connection. Phil Collins, his first voiceover role. He played luck and Muck in Balto in 1995. There we go. [01:01:37] Speaker A: Balto and Phil Collins kind of like, has an adjacent connection to another song we're going to talk about in a second, which I'm really, really excited for. Really? I think I'm going to blow some minds tonight. [01:01:50] Speaker C: I'm ready. [01:01:51] Speaker A: I always really like Tarzan. It's amazing. Mean, you can't beat that soundtrack. I mean, you can't really beat anything Phil Collins does. It's just stunning. [01:02:05] Speaker C: Really spectacular. We were talking about all these covers from other artists doing other Disney covers. This one didn't need that. We had Phil Collins the whole time. Didn't need a cover. [01:02:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, true. [01:02:16] Speaker C: Except there was one song in the movie Trash in the Camp, which there was a cover on the soundtrack because the whole song is very like, shoobie doobie doo BOP. Right? [01:02:27] Speaker A: Scat scat. [01:02:28] Speaker C: And do you know who did the COVID Do you remember this? [01:02:30] Speaker A: I'm going to take a shot in the dark. I'm going to say Lou Vega. [01:02:34] Speaker C: Not Lubega. [01:02:36] Speaker A: Okay. It's not Lubega. [01:02:38] Speaker C: I want to verify this. [01:02:39] Speaker B: One, two, three. Tarzan. He's really going to swing out of. [01:02:46] Speaker C: All right. [01:02:49] Speaker B: The dome, guys. It's pretty good. [01:02:51] Speaker C: All right, think think 1999. Think 1999. Who would Phil Collins team up with to do, like, an all vocal version of Trash in the Camp? [01:03:02] Speaker B: Tom York. [01:03:03] Speaker A: In sync. [01:03:04] Speaker C: In sync. It was in sync. That's what it was. You say? [01:03:09] Speaker A: Tom York from radiohead. [01:03:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I would love to be on this TAZAM song truck. I think it'll be lovely. It's my favorite vocal. I'm not trying to make fun of Think. [01:03:27] Speaker C: One of my favorite things about being on this show is the impressions and. [01:03:32] Speaker B: All the visual bits. Yeah. [01:03:35] Speaker A: Elliot keeps it going with the impressions. All my impressions always end up sounding like the same British guy. Even my Tony Soprano, you know, I. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Still ended up sounding like it's all Paul McCartney. [01:03:47] Speaker A: It's all Paul McCartney. A bit of Liverpool accent. [01:03:52] Speaker B: Oh, Tony Soprano. I was in the Beatles. [01:03:56] Speaker A: Even your Paul McCartney is tony Soprano is better than mine. [01:03:59] Speaker B: I live in New Jersey. [01:04:01] Speaker A: Damn it. The memory I have of Tarzan is this was one of the first times, I remember, because 1999, the Disney Channel was fire. The content was unreal and they were running what would normally be like DVD extras on the Disney Channel, it felt like. And there was a lot of stuff on Tarzan, and I think that's where I remember seeing that thing. [01:04:32] Speaker C: I think you're talking about that show, movie Surfers. [01:04:35] Speaker A: Movie surfers. [01:04:36] Speaker C: Movie surfers on Disney Channel. It was like in between shows, like a commercial length show, and they would dive into movies. That's where I learned that they modeled. Tarzan going down the trees after Tony Hawk. [01:04:51] Speaker B: He just slides down him. He doesn't really repel down. He slides. [01:04:55] Speaker C: Yeah, he slid down. Got a lot of splinters, I'm sure. [01:04:58] Speaker A: Dude, you just opened up like a crazy memory. I forgot about movie surfers. [01:05:03] Speaker C: Movie surfers. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Man, I don't know what movie surfers is. I'm a little bit older than you guys. But also what? What is it? [01:05:13] Speaker C: So Elliot, go on YouTube and look up movie surfers Tarzan. And it was just a little short. It was like DVD extras, like Jake said, and they would just talk about movies behind the scenes stuff. It was very cool. [01:05:24] Speaker A: Wow. Am I am who I am because of pop up video and movie surfers? I didn't think it was going to be such an existential episode tonight. One more thing. Phil Collins would go on to do the music for another movie, though, right? Right, Nick? [01:05:43] Speaker C: Another Disney movie. [01:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:46] Speaker C: I'm not sure about this. [01:05:47] Speaker A: Did he do the music for Brother Bear? [01:05:49] Speaker C: Dude, you're right. Yes, he did. Do Brother Bear. [01:05:52] Speaker B: Whoa, nick, you caught. [01:05:54] Speaker C: I got caught. [01:05:55] Speaker A: I've never actually seen Brother Bear. My wife told me that, and I said, what? No way. [01:05:59] Speaker C: There's that song. Oh, my gosh. Where they're traveling. It's a traveling song. Gosh, that's a great song. I forgot about that. [01:06:08] Speaker B: Wow. [01:06:09] Speaker C: I got to go back and watch Brother Bear. [01:06:11] Speaker A: I've heard it's devastating. I've never seen it. [01:06:16] Speaker C: It's part of the downhill. After Disney Renaissance wasn't one of the good ones. [01:06:23] Speaker A: So after after 99 amazing year, Tarzan came out. Euro Pop by Apple 65 also dropped that year. [01:06:32] Speaker C: I'm Blue. [01:06:33] Speaker A: That was our last episode. [01:06:35] Speaker B: Just so we're all clear on where we are in the timeline. [01:06:40] Speaker A: Cultural touchstones. Europop tarzan. So what happens after this? I know Eisner leaves the company at some point. [01:06:49] Speaker C: Yeah. So the movies don't really start picking up. That's I guess it's debatable when they really start picking up. You have movies like Treasure Planet and. [01:07:03] Speaker A: Atlantis. [01:07:04] Speaker C: Atlantis with Michael J. Fox. Yeah. [01:07:07] Speaker B: Well, they've been reacquired by a cult audience, right? [01:07:11] Speaker C: Yeah, those movies definitely have. [01:07:13] Speaker B: They didn't perform too well, but people like those movies a lot. [01:07:17] Speaker C: They stopped using music in the same. [01:07:20] Speaker B: Way for a while, so they moved away from the musical thing. [01:07:25] Speaker C: Right. And so then, you know, some great movies here and there. But I mean, I could be wrong, but I feel like the Disney movie musical didn't really come back until, like, Princess and the Frog rapunzel. Like these movies where we had the return of Alan Menken. Which Alan Menken strikes back. He did tangled. [01:07:47] Speaker B: When was tangled. [01:07:49] Speaker A: I'm taking a shot. 2012. [01:07:51] Speaker C: 2010. [01:07:52] Speaker A: You were close. [01:07:54] Speaker B: In 2000, we had Emperor's New Groove. I really enjoyed that one a great deal. [01:07:59] Speaker C: That was a great movie. Not really a musical, and that was not at all. [01:08:03] Speaker A: That's another blind spot. [01:08:04] Speaker B: So they're like, what if we just did full on comedies? Oh, Jake, you should check out Emperor's New groove man. [01:08:10] Speaker A: It's so funny. [01:08:14] Speaker B: David's Faith, John Goodman. It's insane. It's insanely good. [01:08:17] Speaker A: The full blown Frozen assault phenomenon. Can we use phenomenon? [01:08:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:24] Speaker B: Okay. So, Nick, how do you feel about the modern era of the ODS and the tens of what Disney is now? The original IP, like Frozen and the Pixar stuff, which I think is kind of like if you ask me, it's kind of dropped down a bit. I don't know what's going on over there. And then there's the remakes of everything. How do you feel about all this? [01:08:50] Speaker C: Right. Okay. So the animated side of it, we had, like, tangled. Mandy Moore, entangled zachary Levi. [01:08:58] Speaker B: Mandy Moore. [01:08:59] Speaker C: Yeah. Bringing back some 90s stuff there. I love Zachary Levi. Also Shazam. [01:09:03] Speaker A: He lives in Texas. [01:09:05] Speaker C: Austin. [01:09:06] Speaker B: Right. [01:09:06] Speaker C: I met him at a Comic Con in Austin. He's a nice guy. [01:09:09] Speaker A: I feel he'd be cool. Very tall. [01:09:11] Speaker C: Yeah, he's huge. [01:09:12] Speaker A: How tall is he? [01:09:14] Speaker C: He's really way taller than me. I mean, I'm short, but he's tall. He's a big guy. He's a superhero. He's Shazam. [01:09:21] Speaker B: He's Shazam. [01:09:23] Speaker C: But so as far as those animated features, princess and the Frog and those movies, they went back to basics. They put more music back in it, and I think that's awesome. But the question of the live action remakes, I think they're hit and miss, and a lot of them don't seem necessary. Like going back to 90s stuff. Lion King remake wasn't needed. [01:09:44] Speaker B: We've already got one, don't we? [01:09:46] Speaker C: We got one. Beauty and the Beast remake. Emma Watson can't sing. Sorry. [01:09:52] Speaker B: Oops. [01:09:54] Speaker C: She sounds like Tbane. [01:09:56] Speaker B: We'll cut that. She's our guest next week to talk about Spice Girls. [01:10:02] Speaker C: You have two guests again next week, Jake. [01:10:05] Speaker A: Yeah, we're having Emma. I'm not going to hear the end of this. [01:10:15] Speaker B: I'm so mad. Yeah, Jake's a busy guy. [01:10:22] Speaker C: That was very good. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Technically, six guests, if you count me. And the spice bit there. [01:10:27] Speaker A: We know where were. [01:10:34] Speaker B: Talking about. [01:10:35] Speaker C: All right, live action Disney remakes. [01:10:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Your thoughts on these? [01:10:38] Speaker C: Yeah, we already got it. Why do we need it again? [01:10:40] Speaker A: And they're all perfect. Oh, yeah. I mean, Lion King, Aladdin being the beast they're all perfect. [01:10:50] Speaker C: Did you watch The Little Mermaid? [01:10:51] Speaker A: The new one? [01:10:52] Speaker B: No, I haven't. [01:10:53] Speaker C: I'm waiting for it to be on. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Streaming because we missed it in theaters. [01:10:55] Speaker B: Oh, it's on Disney if you get that one. [01:11:01] Speaker A: Is it already? [01:11:02] Speaker B: I like to say Disney because the little plus looks like a Disney. [01:11:08] Speaker C: I like it. [01:11:09] Speaker B: All I do is watch Disney with the kid. Disney plus with the kid. And she's really curious about the Little Mermaid one, but it looks scary as shit. And she's two. And then let's watch the OG one. So I pop on the 89 Little Mermaid. I'm like, this is scariest shit, man. This movie is kind of wild. [01:11:32] Speaker C: My brother took my niece. She's three. That was her first movie, Little Mermaid, in theaters. The remake. Yeah, the remake had to take her out during the Ursula scenes. It was too scary. [01:11:46] Speaker A: Really? [01:11:47] Speaker C: I would have included the song from Little Mermaid in this. But that movie came out in 1989. [01:11:52] Speaker B: Didn't 89? [01:11:53] Speaker A: Ellie and I learned that at the same time while texting each other. [01:11:59] Speaker B: This is loosey goosey, man. Because now should we get to our honorable mentions? Yeah. [01:12:05] Speaker A: Actually a perfect segue. [01:12:07] Speaker C: So. [01:12:09] Speaker A: It'S no secret here at Sipamimo Studios that we love the 90s, but we do. This is a studio that's been around for almost 100 years. [01:12:19] Speaker C: Nick, 100 anniversary right now, man. Disney 100 is gone right now. [01:12:24] Speaker A: A cool hundred. Was that Oswald or Steamboat dropped in 1923? [01:12:33] Speaker C: Disney 100 since the company was founded when Walt Disney came and actually started making the Alice cartoons in 1923. [01:12:42] Speaker A: Wow. This is why we have you on as our first guest. [01:12:51] Speaker B: I appreciate you, Nick. [01:12:52] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:12:53] Speaker A: So we have 100 years of song to discuss. And even though we could we can do a couple of episodes on the 90s, we wanted to talk about some decades. So Nick picked two of his faves. Looks like we got one from the from the 70s. Nick, I'll let you pick. [01:13:14] Speaker C: Well, let's start with 1973 robin Hood. We already mentioned that earlier. [01:13:18] Speaker B: Unbelievable. [01:13:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:20] Speaker A: Crazy. [01:13:21] Speaker C: Incredible film music written by Roger Miller. Obviously famous for not just being in Robin Hood, but just for his own stuff in the film. Roger Miller plays Alan Adale, which is one of the Merry Men and the Minstrel of the group. So he kind of acts like Phil Collins did in Tarzan. He kind of leads the audience along with the story. [01:13:43] Speaker B: He is the rooster. [01:13:46] Speaker C: The rooster. Yeah. [01:13:48] Speaker B: Carco. Unbelievable. There's like, scratches on it. You can see, like, pen ink spotting on the pages. It's beautiful. [01:13:58] Speaker C: There's a lot of interesting things with the making of that movie. And part of the reason it looks like that is they were, like, literally Xeroxing. They were copying cells and certain things. So there's some, like, if you go on YouTube and look up, like, Disney reused animation, you can see, like, side by sides of different movies, but use the exact same animation. [01:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:18] Speaker C: And so this movie was originally conceived by Walt. He wanted to make a movie about Raynard the Fox, which is another old character in literature where he's an anthropomorphomorphic fox and he makes mischief. But it was another animator named Ken Anderson who decided, well, why don't we combine that with the story of Robin Hood and make Robin Hood an anthropomorphic, mischievous fox. And so Robin Hood was born. One thing I love about this movie is the fact that it's set in England. The movie is like the soundtrack is folk music, but somehow it works. [01:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:01] Speaker C: I think it's because the music is that good, man. It sets this relaxing tone from the beginning with Whistle Stop and the whole movie, you're relaxed. You're just into it. And it doesn't matter that it takes place in England and you're hearing Roger Miller. It just works. [01:15:19] Speaker B: I really wanted to hear a Johnny Cash cover of the whole thing. [01:15:24] Speaker A: Oh, that would have been amazing. [01:15:26] Speaker B: Robin Hood and Lil John running through the mind. That'd be amazing. [01:15:32] Speaker A: The opening with with all the characters. Oh, that's one of my favorite things ever. I just love it. [01:15:41] Speaker C: The lyrics. You really kind of they drop you right into the action. Robin Hood little John running through the forest. Right? [01:15:47] Speaker B: That's right. [01:15:48] Speaker C: And it just it sets it off. Right? [01:15:51] Speaker B: All are we all just running through the forest? [01:15:53] Speaker C: The forest of life. [01:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:56] Speaker C: Other notable things about this. Whistle stop in the advent of the internet became Hamster dance. You guys remember this? [01:16:05] Speaker B: I remember. Hamster dance. [01:16:12] Speaker A: Is happening. [01:16:14] Speaker C: That is whistle stop. What incredible. [01:16:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. I'm just glad I'm older enough to recognize a reference that you guys have been throwing out. [01:16:24] Speaker C: Are you going to play Hamster dance now? [01:16:26] Speaker A: I'm going to listen to it in my ear because my mind no, we'll. [01:16:31] Speaker B: Get flagged for hamster dance. Not the Disney stuff. The hamster dance. People are fucking crazy, man. [01:16:38] Speaker C: Come after they're actual hamsters. [01:16:44] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It totally is. [01:16:47] Speaker C: It's whistle. [01:16:49] Speaker A: Talk about the hamster dance. My wife will tell you a story where when we'd already been together maybe about six months. Every time we'd get in the car, I would play the Hamster dance song. We'd be like, going on a date. And then she'd get in the car and did it in. She was like, hamster dance again? You know, it like you could square. [01:17:09] Speaker C: Dance like a country bar. [01:17:14] Speaker B: This is before you were married. You're like dropping hamster dance. Hamster dance. [01:17:18] Speaker A: I was like, hey, check this out. And she's like, the hamster dance, okay. And then she married me. So, you know, it's real. Months of the hamster dance. [01:17:29] Speaker B: I think I'm trying to act too cool these days, man. I don't know. I'm doing something wrong. I'm not wiped up. Hamster am so good note. [01:17:37] Speaker C: A reoccurring thing in all these songs is the there's always every great Disney song is a great Disney cover. [01:17:45] Speaker B: Right? [01:17:45] Speaker C: And so one of the Roger Miller tracks from this movie, not in Nottingham, was covered by Mumford and Sons, and it's spectacular. [01:17:54] Speaker B: Oh, that makes a lot of sense. I love that. Okay. Very good. [01:17:59] Speaker A: Roger Miller just had that voice. He was also famous for his song King of the Road. King of the road. I'm a man of means by no means king of the road. Like this. Very mellow. Just like, super easy to listen to. Almost like a country crooner in a lot of ways. But, oh, I love his voice on these songs. [01:18:27] Speaker B: It's unreal. [01:18:28] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Spectacular. [01:18:31] Speaker B: This is not your Robin Hood, but mine. I really Disneyed up this time. [01:18:37] Speaker A: And this is also aside from, like, Richard Lewis's prince. Remember he was in Robin Hood? Men in tights. [01:18:47] Speaker C: Love that movie. [01:18:50] Speaker A: The one that goes, your mole is moving. And he goes, I have a mole? You know what I'm talking about? I think it's Richard Lewis. [01:18:59] Speaker B: Yeah, richard Lewis is the king. [01:19:02] Speaker C: Abe Blinken. [01:19:03] Speaker B: Did you say our sheriff? [01:19:07] Speaker A: Abe Lincoln and Dave Chappelle in that movie too? This is my favorite. Besides Richard Lewis and rob himantites my favorite. Prince John. He's just such a baby. He's always like, is the snake? It's hiss, right? [01:19:21] Speaker C: Hiss, sir. [01:19:22] Speaker A: Hiss. Hiss. Hiss is also in Jungle Book. Right? It kind of looks like the snake from The Jungle Book. [01:19:30] Speaker C: Again, reuse animation. We have the same bear. Little John and Baloo. Same bear. Both voiced by Phil Harris. So literally, basically the same character. [01:19:41] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah. Loves juggle book too. [01:19:45] Speaker C: Then we can make a 90s connection to Tailspin. [01:19:49] Speaker B: Love Tailspin. Wow. That was like the Avengers endgame of the early 90s. [01:19:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Crossover event of the 90s. [01:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:58] Speaker C: From what I understand, they wanted to get Phil Harris to reprise his role as Baloo in that. But he was too old and his voice just wasn't right. [01:20:08] Speaker B: How do you feel about the 90s animation scene in Disney? Like, your DuckTales, your dark wing duck and all that? [01:20:17] Speaker C: Gosh Disney afternoons. That was my so, yeah. [01:20:22] Speaker B: I love darkwing duck so much. [01:20:25] Speaker C: Let's get dangerous. [01:20:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Go darkwing. Go darkwing duck. How about that for a song? That's pretty good. [01:20:34] Speaker C: There you go, Chippendale. Rescue Rangers. [01:20:36] Speaker B: Rescue Rangers. [01:20:38] Speaker A: I love Andy Sandberg. Was it Andy Samberg? [01:20:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it was Andy Sandberg. Yeah. That movie was actually really funny. [01:20:46] Speaker A: It was John Mulaney. [01:20:48] Speaker C: Is it John Mulaney? Yeah. I had such low expectations for that movie, and it blew my mind. [01:20:54] Speaker A: It was really good. [01:20:55] Speaker C: It was awesome. [01:20:56] Speaker B: I haven't seen it. Oh, my God. Okay. All right, well, I will now watch. [01:21:00] Speaker C: It on the Disney. [01:21:05] Speaker B: Top. [01:21:05] Speaker C: 90S are done. I have one more song from 1953 that I think is worth talking about. [01:21:10] Speaker B: Okay. [01:21:11] Speaker A: This is a big one. [01:21:13] Speaker C: Yeah. So 1953. Peter Pan. That's my favorite Disney movie of all time. I grew up with that movie. And the song I'm talking about is Second Star to the Right, which is the Directions to Neverland. This song was written by Sammy Khan. Do you guys know who Sammy Khan is? You know his music because he wrote so many hits from the Great American songbook. He's a lyricist. He wrote. Ain't that a kick in the head? Dean Martin. He wrote, Come fly with me, Sinatra. He wrote love and marriage. Sinatra Right. He wrote, Call me Irresponsible. High Hopes, time after time. And one of the best Christmas songs of all time, let It Snow. [01:21:57] Speaker B: It's like a lounge. [01:21:58] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. And so if you listen to Second Star to the right, it has that know this one opens the it does. Yeah, it does. And this song was actually originally written for Alice in Wonderland. They cut the song from Alice in Wonderland. It was originally going to be called beyond the Laughing Sky. And so they changed the lyrics, but they kept the music and melody and put it in peter Pan. He wrote a handful of the other songs in this movie, your Mother and Mine and the elegant Captain Hook. And that song has some background vocals that I think are incredible because they were by the Mellowman. The mellowman was thorough. Ravenscroft's band. His vocal group. Thorough Ravenscroft. He is the voice of Tony the Tiger. [01:22:48] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:22:50] Speaker C: And he sang. You're a mean. So he does background vocals on Peter Pan. What is that? That's crazy. [01:22:59] Speaker B: Meaning he narrated the whole Grinch movie. Is that the same narrator and singer? [01:23:05] Speaker C: Yeah, that guy with the real deep voice. [01:23:07] Speaker B: Wow. You're a mean one. They're great. [01:23:12] Speaker A: That was good. [01:23:13] Speaker C: That was awesome. I love the impressions on this show. [01:23:17] Speaker B: Nick, any other deep cuts in the 90s or even before that, people have forgotten about. [01:23:25] Speaker C: All right, I did research for this show. I did my homework to come on this show. So not only are these some of my favorite songs, but I really did research and look up some stuff. But I did have some honorable mentions that I didn't actually do a lot of research on. So I can kind of talk off the cuff on oh please. [01:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah, please do. [01:23:45] Speaker C: Out there from Hunchback in Notre Dame. Spectacular song. Another Alan Manken song. And all over the place. This song has another big connection to me because it's another one of those songs about wanting to break out. And the shy guy. [01:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. It's an awesome first act tune. Have you seen this being appropriated by TikTok and Melded perfectly with the score from how to Train Your Dragon. [01:24:17] Speaker C: I've not seen this. [01:24:19] Speaker B: Oh, boy. It's pretty astonishing. I don't know if they're in the same key or something, but I really do enjoy the Hunchback Out There tune. It's also kind of like a gay anthem. I'm not comfortable here. I wish to be out with this with these people and all that. I think it's fantastic. [01:24:39] Speaker C: Yeah. Great song. Fantastic movie. Really underrated movie. Super dark. Dark movie. [01:24:44] Speaker A: One of the darker ones in the 90s, for sure. Well, I mean, I guess of any decade. [01:24:50] Speaker C: The other honorable mention I wanted to say was Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. That's the best villain song in any Disney movie. [01:24:56] Speaker B: I stand by that exact opposite. About there, it's like he drinks twelve dozen eggs or whatever. Yeah. [01:25:04] Speaker C: To make him large. It's the ego boost song. [01:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah. What's brilliant is this guy's gross kind of immediately. But on first approach, if you didn't know anything about the movie, oh, she's probably going to end up with this guy or whatever, or the cute librarian or something. But then this guy's like, I'm so pompous I could suck my own dick. [01:25:30] Speaker C: No one doesn't like eston. Yeah. [01:25:34] Speaker B: Episode title. Episode title. [01:25:37] Speaker A: I love it. [01:25:40] Speaker B: For sure. How about the in Beauty and the Beast? I think there's something here that wasn't here before. [01:25:47] Speaker C: Oh, spectacular song. [01:25:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that one's pretty phenomenal. [01:25:51] Speaker A: Are those Tim rice? Did he write the lyrics for that one? [01:25:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I believe he did. Well, he remember. So Alan Menken and his partner Howard Ashman, they started with movie. Yeah. And so Ashman died during production of this movie. I'm pretty sure he finished, but I think Tim Rice may have contributed also. I could be wrong on that. [01:26:15] Speaker B: That truly breaks my heart because that movie was a smash. [01:26:19] Speaker C: Another great documentary on Disney Plus. [01:26:22] Speaker B: Yeah, go plug plug away. [01:26:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Watch the Howard asman documentary called Howard Spectacular. [01:26:29] Speaker B: Oh, man. [01:26:30] Speaker C: Heartbreaking, but great. [01:26:33] Speaker B: How about modern stuff like post ODS and all that? How are you with Pixar? How are you with the newer stuff? [01:26:43] Speaker C: I've always been a big Pixar fan. I feel like the newer stuff Disney and Pixar have both been putting out lately haven't really grabbed like and not to mention, I feel like they've been lacking in the song department. There's none of these great songs that you could do a podcast about on any of these besides, like, Frozen. Obviously, I might be missing something, but. [01:27:08] Speaker B: Frozen is Disney proper. Yeah. And they went musical with it. [01:27:13] Speaker C: Talking about covers Weezer doing into the woods from Frozen. Two. [01:27:17] Speaker A: Oh, spectacular. [01:27:18] Speaker B: Spectacular. Really? [01:27:20] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm a big weezer guy. [01:27:23] Speaker A: Casey Musgraves does an amazing cover of into the Lost and Found. [01:27:30] Speaker C: Into the unknown. [01:27:32] Speaker A: It's the lullaby that Elsa sings with her mom. [01:27:36] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:27:42] Speaker A: There's a lot and then Panic of the Disco does into the Unknown. [01:27:45] Speaker C: They do. Yeah, they do. In 2015, there was a record that came out called We Love Disney. And it was just covers. Do you guys remember this? Did you hear this? [01:27:55] Speaker A: I remember this one. [01:27:56] Speaker C: It was spectacular. It had Fallout Boy on it. They covered a song from The Jungle Book. I want to be like you. [01:28:04] Speaker B: Fallout Boy. Did I want to be like you? [01:28:06] Speaker C: Yes. And it was just as good as you're imagining it. [01:28:10] Speaker B: Oh, I can imagine a lot of things, though. [01:28:13] Speaker A: Which one did they do? What's this? [01:28:16] Speaker C: Oh, that was on the anniversary edition. [01:28:19] Speaker A: For Nightmare for Christmas. [01:28:21] Speaker C: Nightmare before Christmas. [01:28:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:22] Speaker C: That was great. What's this? [01:28:24] Speaker A: That's crazy. [01:28:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Neo. Did friend like me. You gotta check out this record. [01:28:31] Speaker A: I remember there was a lot of like around that time, there was like a lot of I think it was like we like being groovine, and it was a bunch of contemporary artists covering the muppets. [01:28:41] Speaker C: Well, Gwen Stefani did rainbow connection on this soundtrack. [01:28:44] Speaker A: I love that. [01:28:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Rascal flap did. Let it go. [01:28:48] Speaker A: I remember. Yeah, it's Tinkerbell on the COVID Oh, wow. I remember seeing the vinyl. [01:28:53] Speaker C: They do a cover of It's a Small World where all the vocalists get in on that one. And when Patrick from Fall Boy does his part, my heart melts every time I'm gathering. [01:29:04] Speaker B: You're kind of an old school guy, Nick, but do you like any of the newer stuff, like Moana and Raya and stuff like that? [01:29:12] Speaker C: I forgot about Moana. Yeah, moana's. Great. Moana. We have the rock, right? That's a great movie. I think it's amazing they're going to remake that one. Dwayne Johnson already said why? [01:29:24] Speaker B: Well, he said it, but are they? We'll see. [01:29:27] Speaker C: I think Disney let him say. [01:29:32] Speaker B: Fair. [01:29:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Raya was good. Wasn't any music in that one, right? [01:29:36] Speaker B: No, there's a lot of music, but yeah, score. [01:29:40] Speaker C: Like, no songs, I guess. [01:29:42] Speaker A: I haven't seen Riah. [01:29:45] Speaker B: You got to watch Riah to bring. [01:29:49] Speaker A: It back around to tie the bow on the 90s. So the animated Peter Pan not entirely familiar with was not. I grew up watching another Peter Pan movie. One I know my guy, Nick. I know you enjoyed it, too. Elliot hook. [01:30:08] Speaker C: Hook. [01:30:09] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:30:10] Speaker C: Hook. [01:30:14] Speaker A: Do y'all know who made a cameo in Know? [01:30:19] Speaker C: I know. Can I say? [01:30:22] Speaker B: Oh, I know what it is. You want to do it at the same time. All right. Let's do Glenn Close. [01:30:29] Speaker C: Phil Collins. [01:30:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I forgot. Okay. Technically both correct. Damn. Okay. They were both in Tarzan. Okay. [01:30:41] Speaker C: It was a Tarzan reunion. [01:30:44] Speaker A: That was beautiful. [01:30:46] Speaker B: This is the best episode we've ever done. [01:30:49] Speaker A: My mind just like I just like, oh, yeah. They're both in Tarzan, and they're both in yeah, yeah. Bill Collins plays, like, the inspector police officer who comes after the kids are stolen by Dustin Hoffman's. Hook. [01:31:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:31:06] Speaker A: He's blinking. You miss for real. [01:31:08] Speaker C: The literary history of your. [01:31:15] Speaker B: Wow. [01:31:16] Speaker A: But, man, I echo what Ellie just said. I think this might be our finest 2 hours of content ever. This was a blast. [01:31:28] Speaker C: I had such a fun time. Both of you, thank you so much for having me. [01:31:33] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness gracious. Thank you, man. [01:31:36] Speaker A: You're such a knowledgeable guy, and you're so passionate about it, so I do hope you spark up your show again. But what was it like going back and did you learn anything new? [01:31:47] Speaker C: Did you, like, researching for this show? Yeah, I learned a lot. I was able to really have a good time researching this, and it made me want to bring back my show. [01:31:59] Speaker A: Awesome. [01:32:00] Speaker C: If I decide to do it, you guys are both my guest stars. [01:32:06] Speaker A: So one of the things I was really blown away with in my research was. [01:32:10] Speaker C: How. [01:32:13] Speaker A: The guys in Eiffel 65. You know, they used they used a vocoder effect on Jeffrey's vocals. Not all the time, however, it was very present and they referenced an artist that inspired them. [01:32:33] Speaker B: Oh, no. [01:32:35] Speaker A: And so this is an artist that they're iconic, are they? And honestly, when I think back on my favorite song of the decade, oh, God, this one is up there. This one talks to my love of pop music and a great vocalist. [01:33:03] Speaker C: Spoiler. [01:33:03] Speaker A: I do own this record on, so I'm very, very excited to talk about it. Elliot. [01:33:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:12] Speaker A: Next time I present to you Shares Believe. [01:33:21] Speaker B: Okay. All right. [01:33:26] Speaker A: Keep an eye out for that for the opening track, the title track, arguably one of the more influential and important tracks of the past 30 years. [01:33:42] Speaker B: You could argue that I think it. [01:33:44] Speaker A: Really introduces that Auto Tune effect that you see throughout the early aughts and. [01:33:52] Speaker B: Even, well, 565, I'd agree with you. If you're going to share out of me, I'm going to pull this one on you. [01:34:00] Speaker A: Hit me. [01:34:00] Speaker B: In February of 1998, an album called in the Aeroplane Over the Sea came out, and it's by a band called Neutral Milk Hotel. We're going to do that because if you keep on pulling this bullshit with me, where you bring up Ibble 65 and Cher and Madonna, I'm going to come after your ass and like, oh, you think you like rock? Rock? How about this? And I'm going to indy your ass into the ground. [01:34:27] Speaker C: Neutral Milk. [01:34:28] Speaker A: Super indie. [01:34:31] Speaker B: It's definitive indie. [01:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like a proto death cab for cutie in a lot of ways. [01:34:38] Speaker B: I'll get that name out of your mouth. [01:34:40] Speaker A: No. [01:34:41] Speaker B: I love Death cap. But yeah, Neutral, they are above it. [01:34:52] Speaker C: Awesome. [01:34:53] Speaker A: Well, Nick, thanks again for being our first ever guest on Sipping Memos. Or for tonight, when you sip upon a star. [01:35:02] Speaker C: Thank you for having me. [01:35:03] Speaker A: It's been a blast. Check out Mickey and Minutes wherever you get your podcast. [01:35:07] Speaker B: Oh, please do. It's very informative and cool bite size. [01:35:10] Speaker A: Pieces of Disney knowledge that will make your day a little brighter. So definitely give that a follow. I think that does it. So I'm going to take the first star on the right and then go on till morning. [01:35:27] Speaker C: You hit the Waffle House, you've gone too far. [01:35:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Wait, can you text me those directions again? Because I don't even know. [01:35:34] Speaker A: I'll drop a pin. [01:35:36] Speaker B: Drop a pin and I'll try to get the Google Maps is being weird. [01:35:44] Speaker C: It won't take you to other dimensions. [01:35:46] Speaker A: Well, this came out in the 50s, so I think we're using MapQuest at this point. That was such a dad joke. [01:35:52] Speaker B: That's where we have to end. [01:35:54] Speaker A: Does anyone not remember MapQuest? Silence. [01:35:58] Speaker C: Print it out. [01:36:00] Speaker B: Guys, I have news. I ended up at the DreamWorks Park instead. I'm training a dragon now. I don't even know what's going on. [01:36:07] Speaker C: Wrong studio. [01:36:08] Speaker A: Watch out for those shoot. [01:36:13] Speaker B: Well, I'm sure we'll meet up again. This has been fantastic. Absolutely, Nicholas. What a dream. Thank you so much. [01:36:20] Speaker C: Thank you, guys. This is awesome. [01:36:22] Speaker A: As always, you can find sip memos on all the Things Spotify Apple podcasts. Give us a follow on Instagram sipmemospod.com. If you missed earlier, our buddy Nick, he's at Mickey in minutes. Give him a follow. Check out his stuff. He really knows his stuff. And you will enjoy it. [01:36:41] Speaker B: And as always hey. [01:36:44] Speaker A: Stay sipping. [01:36:45] Speaker B: Stay sipping.