Tom Petty - Wildflowers

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Thomas Earl Petty was born on October 20, 1950 in Gainesville, Florida. After meeting Elvis Presley on the set of the film Follow that Dream in Ocala, Florida, Tom became interested in rock and roll, an interest that became an obsession when he saw the Beatles perform on the Ed Sullivan show in 1964. In 1970, Tom formed Mud Crutch with guitarist Mike Campbell and Tom Leddon and drummer Randall Marshall. After conquering the Gainesville bar scene, Tom and the band, which now included piano prodigy Benmont Hinch, set their sights on Los Angeles after fellow Gainesville resident and future eagle Don Felder, along with Tom Leddon's brother Bernie, found success in California. After cutting a single, Thomas and friends drove to Los Angeles where they literally walked door to door trying to find a record deal. They eventually signed with Shelter Records, co owned by legendary piano player Leon Russell and Danny Cordell. After years of not having a single or an album, Mud Crutch disbanded. Tom and Mike Campbell remained signed with Shelter Records and keyboardist Tench decided to form a group to cut demos of his own. Recruiting Gainesville musicians Stan lynch and Ron Blair, along with Mike Campbell, Tench formed the group known as the Heartbreakers. Tom, visiting the sessions immediately recognized the group's potential and recruited them to be his band. The band put out their first album in 1976, this is the one that had American Girl on it, followed by youy're Gonna get it in 1977 and finally damn the torpedoes in 1979. Torpedoes pretty much seals the deal for the band as far as living legend status goes. In the late 80s, Tom starts working on a solo project with producer Jeff Lynn from ELO. They released Full Moon Fever in 1989. This is the album with Free Falling and Won't Back Down On. This album was a smash and found itself a super fan in Los Angeles's newest transplant at the time, super producer Rick Rubin. Rick was so enamored with the album that he reached out to Tom's label, mca and said that he was interested in working with Tom. The label said that Tom is exclusively produced by Jeff Lynn and that was that. So when Tom left MCA for Warner Bros. An executive at Warner Bros. Put him in contact with Rick Rubin, knowing that Rubin, who had done some work with Warner Brothers before, was a fan of Tom Petty. In 1992, 1993, they start working on an album called Wildflowers. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Tonight We're Right Right or wr Tonight. [00:02:49] Speaker A: We sail on Radio sound Rescue me. [00:02:57] Speaker B: Should I go down if I stay too long in troubled town oh yeah, you wreck me Baby, yeah, you break me in two but you move me. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Honey yes, you do I. I wasn't planning on, like, introing the show like. Like that, but I like that. I like that idea. [00:03:29] Speaker B: We're playing with the format, babe. I'm also playing with the format by sipping on this. Did you ever drink Arizona green tea? [00:03:39] Speaker A: I love Arizona green tea. [00:03:42] Speaker B: I got me. It got me through college and, like, a bit of my New York years, and finally someone asked me, like, why do you drink that? I'm like, oh, it's tea. It's, like, good for you. Like, that's, like, so much sugar. It's like a Coca Cola and this is a boozy version of it and it tastes odd. The. [00:03:59] Speaker A: The. So. So for those listening, Elliot is drinking a ginseng. Ginseng green tea? [00:04:06] Speaker B: Yeah, the Arizona cocktail ginseng and honey, premium spiked version. It's just 5%. Everyone relax. But yeah, I saw it at the market and thought it would be funny, and turns out it's a little bit funny. How are you, bud? [00:04:28] Speaker A: I'm doing great. You know, looking forward to talking about wildflowers today. I know you have a song that you brought for your B side, so I can't wait to discuss that. But. But before we get into that, Elliot, what's been new? What have you seen? What have you gotten new restaurants lately? Have you. How was the green. How is the ginseng green tea? Spike, what's been going on? [00:04:49] Speaker B: The. The green tea is really helping me focus. No, that's. It's. It's. It's gross. Are you a coffee drinker? [00:04:59] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:00] Speaker B: What kind of coffee do you keep at home? [00:05:04] Speaker A: I like. I like a light medium roast. I've kind of started dabbling in, like, artisan coffee. There's. There's one in Austin that supports the. Is it the ham? The musician insurance. And I can't think of the name of it, but it's a black bag and it was very good. But, yeah, I like grinding my own beans and doing that whole thing, doing the French press. How about you? [00:05:33] Speaker B: I'm gonna ask. I have a French press, but it's on its last legs. I thought I might go just get a shitty 25 drip thing off of Amazon. Or should I just get a new French press? And I don't know who's got the good stuff right now. I got some, like, Trader Joe's stuff. Anyways. I don't know. I've got. I've been having a lot of early mornings as of late. It's currently covering The Welta Spania. It's the tour of Spain, but they haven't gotten to Spain yet. They've been in Italy and today in France, tomorrow in Spain, I think. So that's fun. Oh, but lately I saw K Pop Demon Hunters. [00:06:15] Speaker A: I've heard about this. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Well, I'm not. [00:06:17] Speaker A: I've never seen it, though. [00:06:18] Speaker B: It's, like, on Netflix. It's been in, like, their top 10 for a while. And I was curious about it, and I thought, I wonder if I was. You know, I looked it up. I was like. Made sure it was, like, safe. It's pg. And watched it with the kid. And it's our new. Our new favorite thing because it's awesome. It's, like, funny. The animation is crazy. The. It's just these three Korean pop stars that. Their voices keep all the demons in the underworld. And so, like, they. They're singing at these big concerts, and then, like, they bring out swords and kill a bunch of demons and stuff like that. Feels weird to hear my kids say the word demons, but, like, the music is astonishing and, like, really great. I think it's, like, charting right now and stuff, like, worldwide. It's a. It's a good old watch. I recommend it. And I saw Weapons about the kids that run out of their homes at 2:17am in the morning. And the. The mystery that unfolds. That's a good old one. It's by the guy that did Barbarian, I reckon. I recommend that one. How about yourself? [00:07:26] Speaker A: Oh, well, I. I thought about. So on a previous episode, we talked about the Offsprings. Ixnay on the hombre. And you mentioned biking. Did you see. So the Offspring were just in Austin. Did you see Dexter, the singer, biking with Lance? I did. Of course. [00:07:46] Speaker B: That's in my algorithm. Hey, there's the guy from Offspring that's like a chemist, right? Or whatever. [00:07:54] Speaker A: He's like a straight up, like, rocket scientist. Like, it's crazy. [00:07:57] Speaker B: And he's zipping around Austin with Lance Armstrong. [00:08:00] Speaker A: That's amazing. I've been. So. I've been on bottle duty, so I've been crushing audiobooks all summer. Oh, well, I. So I read Friend of the Show, Paul Shears book, and actually got to meet Paul Shearer this. This past March. Um, he was lovely. Big inspiration for our show, for sure. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Um, June, Diane Rayfield is in Weapons. [00:08:29] Speaker A: Really? [00:08:30] Speaker B: This shows up out of nowhere. I almost screamed. I was like, that's true. [00:08:34] Speaker A: She's in. She's in. So we saw the Freakier Friday last week. She's in that. [00:08:40] Speaker B: I love Freaky Friday, the og. That's really funny. [00:08:43] Speaker A: I could not recommend the sequel more. It's really fantastic. [00:08:49] Speaker B: You're not gonna Happy Gilmore to me here. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, it's very, very good. All. Yeah, like, all the right notes are hit. As you know, from our previous episode, we've done Social Distortion and the Offspring. We've been blinking too, so. And I think, you know, I've come to, like, a realization which we'll get to it today, but I read a book called. Or listened to a book called Tearing down the Orange Curtain. How Punk brought. How Punk Rock Brought Orange county to the World. And it's by Nate Jackson and Daniel Cohn. Awesome. Just fantastic book. Also. Also read Chris Kattan's autobiography, which is really. Which is really great. And Bob Odenkirk's comedy. Comedy. Comedy drama, which. Bob Odenkirk's interesting guy. He's kind of had his hands in a lot of my favorite things at one point or another. So. [00:09:51] Speaker B: Yeah. But. [00:09:51] Speaker A: Yeah, just crushing those audiobooks. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Did you see Nobody Or Nobody too? That's out right now. [00:09:57] Speaker A: I saw Nobody. The first one. Yeah. Pretty. Pretty kick ass. And I forget that he's in that super intense episode of the Bear where they're having Christmas or Thanksgiving and he's like an uncle. [00:10:16] Speaker B: Is it the one where John Mulaney is there? [00:10:18] Speaker A: Yes. Yes, I have. [00:10:22] Speaker B: I watched the first season. Should I watch that one? I was just like, boy, this is just Panic Attack, the show. [00:10:29] Speaker A: But it's. It's diminishing returns, I think. Like the first season. Yeah, the first season's good. Second season's good. The third season was like a. Was a. It was an effort to finish it. The fourth, I haven't finished it. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Are they even on for it? Wow. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Great acting, for sure. But it's just. I don't know. I like all. I like all the people in it. It's got Oliver Platt. I love Oliver Platt. And even Jamie Lee Curtis is in it, too. [00:11:06] Speaker B: That boy's playing Springsteen. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, God. We're gonna. Is that. [00:11:12] Speaker B: You're the Springsteen fan here? Is that okay. Casting? Are you. Are you cool with that? [00:11:16] Speaker A: I'm cool with that. I mean, I would have casted myself, but I'm cool. [00:11:23] Speaker B: I mean, either of us could be a better Springsteen than the Bear. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:11:29] Speaker B: It's a good half hour montage of him making sandwiches or something. [00:11:32] Speaker A: What's the guy's name? Jeremy Strong. He's playing John Landau, Bruce's manager. [00:11:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:41] Speaker A: I'm calling it. He's gonna get the Oscar for this one. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Because he was talking in last year or whatever. [00:11:48] Speaker A: Right? Yeah. [00:11:50] Speaker B: My brother really likes the session. We. I watched a bit of it with him, I think, and then. And on my own and all that. And I just. Boy, shows I have a hard time sticking with. I watched the first couple of Alien Earths. [00:12:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I watched the first one. What do you think? [00:12:07] Speaker B: My friend Dave, Shout Out Dave in from Michigan, recommended. And he's a big old alien fan, as am I. And like, you know, I'm not too psyched about their. The last couple decades of output, but I'm like, all right, I'll give it a spin because I'm curious. And, like, immediately I'm like, oh, I see weird editing where, like, oh, they have to show a xenomorph in the first episode, otherwise they can't do it. And then they start. And then, like in the story, they put a bunch of little sick kids, like, very young children into adult bodies. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Oh, that's itchy. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:45] Speaker B: Yeah, we didn't have to do that. So I watched the first couple, and it was neat and, like, then it ends. Like, episode two ends with this big needle drop of a tool song. Oh, really? It feels really odd. Like, they're trying to do, like, a Matrix thing with Rage against the Machine, but then, like. But, like, I guess there's an alien Earth. Like, oh, what? Like, they didn't do that in the last episode, but I'm gonna watch another episode of it, and then if I don't like it, I'll just drop it. Look, it's nothing to me. It means nothing to me. But. But. Yeah, but. K Pop Demon Slayers every night. Every night. That's a daddy night. We watch that and we dance. [00:13:42] Speaker A: I. I'm on my third rewatch of the Righteous Gemstones. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Hey, I need to get my HBO hooked up again. I know I did it with my phone or whatever. Like, I haven't figured out how to, like, disconnect the wires. I need to watch that. I want to watch Peacemaker 2. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we started that one. And they've kind of, like, retconned with the new James Gunniverse. [00:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw the. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Which I still haven't seen Superman's. [00:14:13] Speaker B: But we're going to insist that you watch Superman. [00:14:17] Speaker A: Yeah, we stop the episode right now. [00:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah, all right. We're gonna stop the episode. Jake's gonna watch Superman and come back. Jake, what'd you think? [00:14:28] Speaker A: It's amazing. [00:14:32] Speaker B: You've got a very young Child, Youngish child. And it's weird how, like, your time for, for to view things fluctuates. [00:14:43] Speaker A: So. [00:14:45] Speaker B: You'Re on bottle duty. You can listen to a book, but, like, can't watch a movie. I don't know. [00:14:49] Speaker A: I've started watching, like, movies like, as I, like, wind down for bed and, you know, checking off ones that, you know, I probably should have seen by now, but I haven't. So last night was. I started watching Lethal Weapon. Never seen Lethal Weapon. [00:15:06] Speaker B: Well, you've never seen it before? Nuh, I'm trying to. That was never a big one for me. I don't, I think, I think I've seen part of them, but I think I, I think if I remember, I just saw, like, a loaded weapon like that. Oh, with Emilio and, like, Sam Jackson, Right? [00:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Which I, I, I, I think I saw that too. Were you ever a big, naked young guy? [00:15:32] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. Absolutely. And, like, I think it's so funny. I haven't seen the new one. I should have. Because we need to give comedy movies money. Otherwise, like, this was it. This was it. They're just gonna not do comedy movies in theaters ever again if this one doesn't make money. But it's our boys, Lonely island guys, that did Pop star. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Akiva, right? [00:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I, I type of money. I got that type of money. Have you heard Diaper Money? [00:16:01] Speaker A: No. [00:16:01] Speaker B: All right, well, all right. We're gonna pause the show. Jake's gonna listen to Diaper Money by Lonely Island. [00:16:08] Speaker A: I went, I loved it. [00:16:11] Speaker B: I'll send it. [00:16:15] Speaker A: We went to go see Kyle Mooney. [00:16:18] Speaker B: I saw on your Insta or something that you met Kyle Mooney, and I got upset because I didn't fight. [00:16:27] Speaker A: It was like our first date night. And. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Good for you. [00:16:34] Speaker A: And so. [00:16:35] Speaker B: That sounded sarcastic. Good for you, Truly. That's amazing. [00:16:41] Speaker A: So, like, I, I know Kyle from his SNL stuff, of course, but I was not aware that he's got this, like, rich YouTube history. Oh, yeah, yeah, I, I did. I had no idea him and Beck Bennett, like, were, were comedy partners. But there was, there's one clip from the. When Kim Kardashian was on snl and he. They're doing a spoof on the Bachelorette. And it's like all these, like, like, Blake Griffin, who played for the Brooklyn Nets. Chris Rock, John Cena. Talk about peacemaker. It's all these, like, very eligible, you know, men, bachelors. And then it's Kyle Mooney. Yeah. With, like, a bad ponytail. And, like, his name's Zeke. And it's so funny. He was very sweet. Very, very nice. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Rigsby Bear is like one of my favorite movies. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Brigsby Bearer. Never seen that one is like. [00:17:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, debut, like, directorial and writing thing. It's so good. [00:17:51] Speaker A: I. I didn't finish it, but I liked Y2K. It was very silly, you know, I. [00:17:57] Speaker B: Really want to watch it. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of like right up. It's. It's kind of like right up my alley. The music, like the pop culture refs. Oh, yeah. So it was. It was really cool. Kyle, if you happen to be a Tom Petty fan and you stumble upon this episode, thanks for being so sweet to my wife and I. You're the best. [00:18:20] Speaker B: I think he's starting a podcast with Beck Bennett, so maybe we can get on there. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe we can be. [00:18:26] Speaker B: I was going to say, come on our show, we'll promote your podcast. [00:18:31] Speaker A: You know, last week we talked about, you know, who we want to. To be our crush. Our crush. This. This season. [00:18:43] Speaker B: We didn't come up with anyone, did we? [00:18:45] Speaker A: No, we didn't come up with anyone. Because I wanted to get. I wanted to really think about this, and I haven't. I have an idea. So can I go first? Hit me. [00:18:55] Speaker B: Arizona Premium Spike Beverage Hard. Real bridge green tea, ginseng and honey. They don't even call it tea. [00:19:08] Speaker A: You're just. You're just drinking. Arizona. [00:19:11] Speaker B: Arizona Hard. That should be crushed. We should just follow them on Instagram. [00:19:18] Speaker A: We should probably say we're not sponsored by Arizona Hard, but if you Want. [00:19:24] Speaker B: To sip [email protected], no $0.99 thing in the corner of this one, I'll tell you that much. [00:19:33] Speaker A: So my wife's been watching this show the summer I turned pretty. Have you heard about this? [00:19:39] Speaker B: No. [00:19:40] Speaker A: It's. It's pretty juicy. Lots of pretty at the. I think the author. The author's name is Jenny Han, if I'm not mistaken. I watched the first season years ago and then kind of teetered off. But so. But she fills me in, and she was watching an episode the other night, and I turn, I turn and I look and I see Tom Everett Scott on screen. The shades from that thing you do. [00:20:15] Speaker B: Is he the drummer? [00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah, he's the drummer. Okay. [00:20:19] Speaker B: I don't. It's been a while since I saw that thing you do. I don't know. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Oh, but that's American Werewolf in Paris. Dead man on Campus. [00:20:29] Speaker B: I've never seen any of those. I feel bad about it. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Yeah. What do you think of Tom Everett Scott? [00:20:38] Speaker B: I Like that thing you do. [00:20:40] Speaker A: All right. Tom Everett Scott it is. Okay. Okay. [00:20:46] Speaker B: I'll find them on Instagram. Maybe I'll just have to go and watch those movies. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Admittedly, American World from Paris. Not essential. That thing you do. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Werewolf in London. The London one's really good. [00:21:01] Speaker A: Yeah, London's essential. Okay. Paris. [00:21:06] Speaker B: Paris is no London. All right, Jacob. Jake. Have you picked up any new vinyl recently? [00:21:12] Speaker A: That's funny. That's funny you asked that because I was getting ready to introduce our newest segment, Recent Acquisitions. [00:21:20] Speaker B: And. [00:21:22] Speaker A: And yes. So let me see. Thank goodness for Discogs. Sure. [00:21:28] Speaker B: I got them right here, so I can show them to you. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Will you go first? What have you picked up recently? [00:21:33] Speaker B: Love it. How about this one? I picked up Duck Sauce Quack. This is a full length album by. It's a collaboration between this dude called DJ A Track and our beloved Armand Van Helden. They. They made a house tune called Barbara Streisand that's really fun. I. I wonder if you've heard me play it out before. It's a really fun like loopy disco house kind of thing. It's a lot of fun. I got Pendulum. The Reworks. The. It's a bunch of remixes of Pendulum tunes. I think our last episode but are yet to be found. Episode. All their jams. Like the design on the back is really. Because you can't read anything. One of the best remixes on. Of all their catalog on here is by Moby, which was very impressive actually. [00:22:24] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:22:25] Speaker B: I was like, how did Moby get the best one out of all these dudes? And I. I had to pick up dates and confused. Yeah soundtrack. Because I used to have that on cdn. It never left the card like CD deck. It was just pure like just jamster jams to jams. I think it's like purple vinyl and all that. So I needed that fog hat. Like, are you kidding me? [00:22:49] Speaker A: Black Sabbath is on there. [00:22:51] Speaker B: ZZ Top, Nazareth, the Sweet Fox of the Run. Come on. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Good. [00:22:58] Speaker B: Good stuff. [00:23:00] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a great. It's a. It's an oral history of days and confused. It's called all right. All Right all right. And it is about just the making of that movie and it's told by all the actors in it. It sounded like like an amazing just experience and I could only have dreamed to. To have seen it. So yeah, check that out. So like I said, I've been in a really big Righteous Gemstones phase. So I picked up the Righteous Gemstones score from Waxworks for seasons one and two. I've been In a really big original score mood. So I picked up the Penguin by Mick Giacchino. [00:23:45] Speaker B: I'll tell you what's on top of my want list right now. [00:23:47] Speaker A: What's that? [00:23:49] Speaker B: K Pop Demon Hunters. I need that immediately. [00:23:55] Speaker A: And then. Oh, and actually our subject today, I picked up the American Treasure box set of Tom petty. It's a 6Lp box set. It's a gorgeous. It's basically a bunch of, like, alternate. Alternate takes of his popular songs and some unreleased stuff as well. Pretty fantastic. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Wow. Should we get into our album? [00:24:21] Speaker A: Let's do it. All right, so this. This week we are talking about Tom Petty's wildflowers, released in 1994. November 1, 1994. Actually. It's produced by the aforementioned Rick Rubin, who you might know as the founder. One of the founders of Def Jam Records, produced the Beastie Boys. He would go on to produce Johnny Cash. See our previous episode on American Recordings. Produce Slayer, Red Hot Chili Peppers. He's kind of an enigma in a lot of ways. Yeah, this is. This is. Welcome to the show, Tom Petty. Elliot, what did you think of Wildfire? What's your history with Tom Petty? [00:25:10] Speaker B: That's a fine question. How did you first appear of Tom Petty? I mean, it felt like, you know, Tom Petty was in the rotation when I was a kid. You know, I think dad liked him a bit. I. I grew up in Florida, in Orlando. Gainesville, just a bit north of there, I think. Had some family up there. Not that he's. [00:25:36] Speaker A: He's pretty. [00:25:37] Speaker B: He's a bit bigger than Florida these days. Right. [00:25:41] Speaker A: He definitely claimed Los Angeles as his home. [00:25:46] Speaker B: Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, I always, like, you know, enjoyed his stuff. Like, it never, like, irked me. You know, it was like, twangy, but not like the way REM kind of hurts my ears in a weird way. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Controversy. That's still the most. Like, I can understand you not liking Madonna. Like, Ray of Light came on. [00:26:09] Speaker B: Yes. [00:26:10] Speaker A: And I can understand that. I. I can't get it. But still controversial. One of our most controversial EPs. Your thoughts on R.E.M. [00:26:18] Speaker B: But I'm like, grumpy about Madonna. Like, as a DJ and electronic music person, which. Which is not a better look than just being irked by R.E.M. like, I don't know. I. I had. And like, you'd think as a. Something of a music journalist, I'd be able to vocalize and describe why that is, but it's like, ah, something about it just bugs me. But Tom Petty had that same thing. And, like, it's not quite country. It's not hard rock. It's, you know, it's. It's just right where it needs to be in this beautiful, beautiful way. He seems like a nice guy. I don't know. And then, like, when he kept on putting out hits after, like, listening to him as a kid and him being ever present, like Last Dance with Mary Jane. Or is it Mary Jane's Last Dance, the song, like that, that music video was like a huge hit when I was, like, you know, surfing cable after school as a kid. And that's an awesome tune and a weird video. So, yeah, always, always dug on Tom Petty. And like, last week we talked about, like, I think the Heartbreaker should probably be in the conversation in the top 10 of best American rock bands. I think it's dependence. I've never, like. And I double checked. I never, like, owned one of his albums. Like, maybe I had some, like, greatest hits, like MP3 or whatever, but I never went on a wall to, like, stand down, listen to him. He was just kind of there. He was on the radio. He's in the. He's in the shuffle. [00:27:48] Speaker A: Yeah, the ether. [00:27:50] Speaker B: The ether, sure. Like, I'm not changing the radio station if his jams come on. But, like, I didn't seek out his stuff, but I never. I never disliked it. I think it's good. Good, good. [00:28:07] Speaker A: Absolutely. Had you ever heard. Heard Wildflowers before this, this experience? [00:28:16] Speaker B: Well, I had heard you don't know how it Feels. Of course that was a hit and. And you Wrecked Me is a jam. [00:28:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:25] Speaker B: But sitting down to this one and listening to the title track, Wildfires like, oh, killer. Lovely. And it sounds really great. Rick Rubin. [00:28:35] Speaker A: Hoy. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Holy. Like. [00:28:36] Speaker A: Like the. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Just the panning and the production is really well done. It sounds very bright. And he's like. He doesn't do it on every track. Every once in a while he'll, like, layer his vocals. It's just really well produced. And every once in a while, you, You. Yeah, you know, on one track, you hear him say, like, you know, you hear like, Rick, I. I assume in the background saying, take four. And he goes, 1, 2, 3, 4. Like. And there's some really great, like, you know, knee slapper, kind of like, you know, tap your toe tappers on here and what? All with a little thread of sadness, longing, and maybe someone entering a new stage in their life. I felt a lot of, like, a lot of dad stuff in this one. And maybe that's just where I'm at. [00:29:22] Speaker A: No, I. I totally, totally feel that. So I was trying to Think of the first memory I have of hearing a Tom Petty song, and I actually think it was my sister. She had Learning to Fly on her ipod and she played it for me. And I just remember. Remember being blown away. I'm thinking, like, whoa, that sounds so good. Running Fly was on a. Into the Great Wide Open, which is also produced by Jeff Lynn, which is the album that Receipts Wildflowers. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Lynn is that yellow guy. [00:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Do you like elo? [00:30:14] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, their. Their hits. I mean, they're undeniable. I can't say I've ever listened to, like, one of their, like, albums, but, like, Jeff Lynn's just unreal. He produced, like, George Harrison. You know, he did Tom. He did the Traveling Woolberries with Tom and Bob Dylan and George Harris. So all that was going on it during. During this time, which is just unreal. But. But, yeah, so I think that. I think I can. I think my sister. And of course, maybe like, Free Fallen. [00:30:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:30:51] Speaker A: You know, like. But I think the first time I ever really took note was. Was Learning to Fly. And I think that might still be my favorite Tom Petty song. But the first time I heard a song from this album was in that Adam Sandler movie movie, Mr. Deeds. If they played, you Don't Know How It Feels. And I thought it was a Credence Clearwater Revival song, but no. Yeah, I. As you can see. So, like, I. Show my shirt. [00:31:28] Speaker B: Oh, nice. That's a Wildflower era shirt, right? [00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah, Wildflower. So. [00:31:34] Speaker B: And the rest. So they did. [00:31:37] Speaker A: When they re. Released it for the 30th anniversary. They did. So. So Tom. So. So Tom had. Tom and Rubin had envisioned this record as being like, a double album, but the record label was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, that's not gonna sell. It's not gonna sell. So they whittled it down to, like, what, 14, 15 songs. But you're very right. It's. So during this time, Tom Petty was going through a really heavy divorce. And also he was the original drummer for the Heartbreaker, Stan Lynch. He was just fired from the band. So it's a very. It's a very, like, transitional, like, very, like, next phase, you know, record for sure. And you can hear that in the songs, like, especially in, like, Time to Move on. Like that. That's one of my favorites on this album. What are your. What are your standout tracks? Yeah. [00:32:45] Speaker B: So you Wrecked Me, of course, which kind of is a jam. Time to Move On. Hit Me too. [00:32:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:53] Speaker B: And like, Only a Broken Heart and, like, oh, and then hard on Me is like, literally him just talking about, like watching, watching someone grow up and how it's kind of hard. That one, that one kind of shook me a bit. Ah, yeah, yeah. This is a pretty wild album. I somehow I thought it would be shorter. I mean, I don't know, are more concise because, like, you hear like, oh, yeah, I remember this one. [00:33:20] Speaker A: And like, I don't. [00:33:21] Speaker B: I remember you don't know how this feels. But then like, I guess it's Good To Be a King was a single. Yeah, I saw the video and all that. So was this one like a solo effort because of the Wildflowers, like Drummer Thing or Sorry, Heartbreakers Drummer Thing. [00:33:47] Speaker A: I think Tom wanted to have total, like, have total artistic freedom in terms of like crafting this album with. So with the first solo album, which is Full Moon Fever, Stan lynch, who like very. The drummer, very talented drummer for sure, kind of like, kind of like an explosive personality. Like, Stan lynch hated playing the Full Moon Theory songs. He said, he said that like, he felt like he was playing in a cover band when they would play like Free Fallen or like Won't Back down because he, you know, he wasn't on the album, you know, and I think that graded on Tom for sure. So I think going into Wildflowers, he was like, no, I. I want this to be my thing. Which is, which is kind of ironic though, because Mike Campbell, you know, you know, worked on it and played guitar on it. Benmont Tinch, who's the Heartbreakers, you know, keyboard player, Play is all over this album playing keyboards. And Howie Epstein, the Heartbreakers bass player. So really the only one that's not there is Stan, but they brought in Steve Ferroni who's just like a solid drummer, which as a, as a drummer. What did you think of the drums on this record? [00:35:14] Speaker B: Oh, they sounded great. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:16] Speaker B: And like, and like well recorded. I was asking it pretty tricky to do and some like, often, like, if you record them, fine, like you don't notice it if they're recorded badly, like, oh, that's choice. But if they record really well and there's like some wild panning to them and all that, like, I feel like I'm sitting behind the drum set. So I definitely on headphones. Yeah, on recording, listens to the album. I was like, oh, this is a kind of a. When it's there, drum heavy or at least drum just like super produced album. And like there's some really cool, like stomp clap, like beats and everything. Like, yeah, was it one of the ones I liked. I was like, I'm gonna remix this. Maybe only a broken heart or time to move on, I don't know. Yeah, I really enjoyed. How did he find himself to Rick Rubin? Because Rick Rubin and Tom Petty seems like a weird combo to me. Like, because he. Well, he's such a weirdo. And like, maybe Tom Petty's a weirdo too. I heard he enjoys in. He dances with Mary Jane often. And I don't mean from Spider Man. Seems like a chill. Very chill, chill dude. Or. Or did Rip. We should probably talk about that. Uh, but how does he stumble into this weird, uh, like super producers studio, this like, weird music guru? [00:36:52] Speaker A: So. So, like I said, so Rick Rubin reached out to mcea and said, like, hey, like, I'm obsessed with this Tom Petty album. You know, I. I'd like to work with him if, you know, the opportunity ever presents itself. And they were just like, sorry, he only works. Jeff. So when Tom leaves MCA to go to Warner Brothers, Mo Aust. Mo Austin is the guy's name. He was a. He was the chairman and CEO of Warner Brothers Records, and he was connected to Rick Rubin. So in Warren Zane's book, Petty, which is fantastic, he writes that he says, like, Mo Austin and Rick Rubin were having lunch, and Mo was like, you'll never guess who he signed. And Rick Rubin was like, who? And they're like, he's like, Tom Petty. And Rick Rubin's like, I love him. I'm obsessed with this album. I want to work with him. So this guy, this exec who kind of got it introduced, you know, set up to meet cute and got them to work with each other. So. Yeah, and I think it just, you know, Rick, you know, working with, you know, Johnny Cash, he just. He. He had such a way of, like, bringing out something new and interesting from these. I won't say legacy. Like, Johnny Cash was certainly like a legacy artist at the time, but. But Tom Petty was, you know, not even 20 years into his. I mean, well, he started in, like, the early 70s, but that first Heartbreakers came out 76. So, I mean, almost 20 years into his. [00:38:40] Speaker B: How old is. How old is he here on. On this album? And what was his first hit? Like, what's like, I think I asked last time we talked, like, is this mid career? Where do we. Where do we place this? [00:38:56] Speaker A: I would say mid. Mid career. So, like, he's born in 50. American Girl, comes out in 76. American Girl. [00:39:04] Speaker B: Damn. This guy had hits. [00:39:06] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it's wild. [00:39:08] Speaker B: It's Nuts. Like, wow. And then. So this one comes out. 94. [00:39:14] Speaker A: 44. Yeah. [00:39:17] Speaker B: And then. And he kept going for. [00:39:19] Speaker A: For a bit. Yeah. [00:39:21] Speaker B: When was. When was Mary Jane's last dip? [00:39:24] Speaker A: Around the same time. So, like, mca, is that. [00:39:28] Speaker B: What. [00:39:28] Speaker A: What's that? [00:39:30] Speaker B: But not on this album. What was it? It would have to be after this. [00:39:34] Speaker A: No, it was, like, during. So, like, MCA was like, okay, like, we. You owe us. You owe us a couple songs. So their. MCA was putting out, like, a Tom Petty's greatest hits. And they were like, all right, well, you owe. You know, to get out of your contract. You owe us, like, a couple songs. So Tom Petty is like, all right. So he writes Mary Jane's Last Dance in. In, you know, just. Right. Just poof, you know, and they record that, and I think Brooke Rubin produced it as well. So, like, while he's doing Wildflowers, this, like, super heavy, like, you know, very spiritual, you know, album. He's like, all right, let's take a break. I don't want to give this record label any of my Wildflower songs. I'm just gonna write something new. And he just happens to write Mary Jane's Last Dance, which, can you imagine? Just like, oh, they need a song. Okay, here's Mary Jane's Last Dance. Like, unreal, Unreal. [00:40:41] Speaker B: Out of spite. [00:40:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:45] Speaker B: These things happen. [00:40:47] Speaker A: And. And Mary Jane's Last Dance was the. The last time that Stan, the original drummer, recorded with the Heartbreakers. And after that, he was pretty much out of the picture. What did you think of the stranger strings on Wildflowers? [00:41:04] Speaker B: I. I enjoyed the strings. I was really quite taken with the sparse, like, piano hits, like, Bum. [00:41:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:41:13] Speaker B: I don't know where. And, like. And then, like, it would just, like, drop a piano note, and then it would not reappear, like. Like, I am. I imagine that's Reuben being weird, but, yeah, there's a lot of melody, and I like that. As, I guess, a solo album, sometimes it's just him and a guitar, and then all this music comes. Flows out, but still just Tom Petty being. Being cool when. And talking about some weird stuff that he's going through. Have you seen? [00:41:50] Speaker A: I have, actually. So I was fortunate to see Tom Petty four times. [00:41:57] Speaker B: Four. [00:41:58] Speaker A: I saw him four times in San Antonio and Austin and Dallas, so I. He played it at the Verizon Wire Verizon Wireless Amphitheater with Joe. Joe. Oh, man, it's gonna kill me. He played at the Brazen Wireless Amphitheater with Joe Bonamassa, who's, like, a amazing guitar Player. I saw him there in about 2008, and then in Austin, and then what? He announced the Heartbreakers 40th anniversary tour. Slash, like, farewell tour. Me and my good friend from high school, we were like, we need to, to go see as many Texas states as possible. So we drove up to, and we saw the Dallas show where Joe Walsh from the Eagles opened up. [00:42:54] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:42:56] Speaker A: And then we saw him in Austin and Gary Karch Jr. Opened up, and it's just, it was just the coolest experience. I'll never forget. The thing that, the thing that I think think about the most is, you know, because Tom Petty, he passed. You know, he passed in 2017. I, I, and I think that that was a, that was a hard day. I think we, we hung out that night. It was, I think we were like, at. Because it was. Yeah, we were. Was it like Hotel Van zant or something? [00:43:38] Speaker B: October 2, 2017. [00:43:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just remember being in a daze because I, I, Because I truly, truly love Tom Petty. He's certainly one of my biggest inspirations, and I just really, really love. And so his, his loss was, was. That was very profound for me personally and I know for millions and millions of fans and of course, mostly, and most importantly for his family. But, but I, the thing I remember the most at the Austin show being the crowd was going wild, and he said he finished playing a song, he, he goes to the microphone, he goes, oh, Austin, I'm gonna miss you. You know, and that's the thing that sticks out in my mind. I don't, you know, and, yeah, that was, that was, that was a rough one. But, yeah, at least he left behind that amazing body of work. Absolutely. [00:44:51] Speaker B: There's a story about him like, like, getting strapped in and about to go on stage, and he was like, I think opening or following probably opening for Bruce Springsteen. And, and one of, like, the stage hands was like, it's going to sound like they're booing, but they're just screaming Bruce. And Tom Petty said, what's the difference? Like, oh, this guy's a funny mother. [00:45:20] Speaker A: He, he really. Did you ever see him on the Larry Sanders show or the Gary Shanley Show? No. He, yeah, he was pretty funny. [00:45:30] Speaker B: Tom Petty? [00:45:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:33] Speaker B: All right. That's like one of those shows that. It was like Curb before Curb, and I, I was too young to get it, so, like, maybe, maybe I'll. I gotta get the HBO going. I imagine it's on there, if it's anymore. Should I check that out? [00:45:48] Speaker A: So I've only seen the clips and it's, it's his last show and it's, It's a very interesting, very interesting, like, lineup. It's like Clint Black, who's a country, like a very, like, kind of like traditional, like, 80s country singer. And he's there to be the. Because I guess like the Gary Shannon show. I, I didn't watch it either, but from it, it. He had like a, A late night talk show or something like that. [00:46:19] Speaker B: It was like a fake talk show. [00:46:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:46:22] Speaker B: The scenes on it. Yeah. [00:46:24] Speaker A: And. And it's, it's his final show and Clint Black is there to be the musical guest. And Tom Petty gets, like, upset and he's just like. And he's getting in. He's getting in Rip Torn's face and Bruno Kirby's there from City Slickers, and, And Greg Kinnear is as well. [00:46:46] Speaker B: And I, I like him in When Harry Met South. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. [00:46:53] Speaker B: Podcast. [00:46:54] Speaker A: I would love. It'd be called, it'd be called, you know, Kirby, you know, and it would. [00:47:00] Speaker B: Just be like, kirby, your Boone Brunoism. [00:47:05] Speaker A: No, Kirby, your enthusiasm or something. He's incredible in the Godfather too. [00:47:14] Speaker B: I don't know. And I never care for those kind of films. [00:47:18] Speaker A: And Spinal Tap. Talk about Rob Reiner. [00:47:22] Speaker B: Oh, wait, but, like, we have to get the closing thoughts about Tom. But, but are you, are you at all curious about Spinal Tap too? [00:47:30] Speaker A: Oh, my God. So curious. Like, so, like, so there, like. Oh, I can't wait. I, I love it. [00:47:37] Speaker B: I just don't want to get Happy Gilmore again. Like, you know? You know what I mean? [00:47:43] Speaker A: I think I, I trust. I, I trust Christopher Guest. [00:47:46] Speaker B: I do, too. That's all I need to hear. I like that. [00:47:49] Speaker A: All right. [00:47:49] Speaker B: If you trust him, I do too. [00:47:52] Speaker A: I also, I also trust Adam Sandler, but I, I know they're lots of, lots of. I think it's a different production style. Maybe a lot more like hands and what's it called? Chefs in the Kitchen? Maybe. But yeah, and so Tom Petty gets all, like, he gets upset. He's like, I thought I was supposed to be, you know, the musical guest. And he gets into a fight with Clint Black, which is. If you're, if you're, if you're listening to this and you're, you know, you are familiar with Clint Black. It's, it's kind of surreal to see Tom Petty fighting Clint Black. It's, it's great though, if, you know. [00:48:26] Speaker B: You know, kind of situation. [00:48:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, I mean, he was on King of the Hill too. And he's on the episode of the Simpsons. I actually have his character, his Simpsons toy that they. They did a couple years ago. He's a cool dude, you know, and he. He never. I love that he never lost his southern draw. You know, he talked very slow, very. Yeah, I. I adore Tom Petty and listen to this album with the emo, with. With emo's ear, with the Mimo's ear and the emozir. [00:49:06] Speaker B: That's fine. [00:49:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Made me emo listening to it. [00:49:09] Speaker B: Emos and some imomos. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Oh, I like that. But, yeah. So as we are fixing to take the needle off the first side, what are your final thoughts on Wildflowers? [00:49:25] Speaker B: Really enjoy it. Enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. It's one I would absolutely add to the shelf and like, have on it's, you know, another one of these, like, lovely, like, put on the background or engage with it completely and like, close your eyes and listen to, like, this Journey kind of stuff because, like, when it gets a little sad or dark, he's always picking it up with some crazy riff. And like, you can rock Cabin, Cabin. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Down Below or Honeybee. Like, those are like. Yeah, very silly songs, but they. They rock. [00:49:57] Speaker B: It's all good stuff. I. I'm not gonna say anything bad about Tom Petty. I think it's fantastic stuff. Worst thing about him is that it's from Florida. That is one foot sea level. I'm just joking. Floridians, I lived there a long time. [00:50:16] Speaker A: We get each other. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Floridians, listening to this album was trying to think of, like, well, what I. What I put on the B side, which is our new segment. If I had to pick one song that would maybe like, add to, like, the flip of this or like, as an accompaniment. I thought. I thought long and hard and I decided golden by K Pop Demon Hunters. No, no, I. I was thinking about, like, just the kind of the longing and like the. And. And then the musicality and then the strings, of course, and then. But I went like a little string heavy and I thought of stars, the band stars in the song your ex lover is dead from the album set Yourself on Fire. This is a pretty cool tune. [00:51:11] Speaker A: I. [00:51:11] Speaker B: It was like a very emotional tune that I was drawn to in my, you know, college and post college years. It's very kind of indie rock, overwritten over, produced over stringy, you know, well, quite emotional music. I really dug it. I thought this might be a good flip side to a few of the Tom Petty tunes on Wildflowers. Jake What'd you think of that? [00:51:38] Speaker A: Oh, I thought it was perfect. I. I was only familiar with the Starz album in our bedroom after the war. I bought it on a whim at Best buy in, like, 2007 because I liked the artwork for it. And so that was the only thing I was really, really familiar with with the band. But listening to the song honestly, like, would. Would make a perfect B side to just about any of the Wildflower songs. It's got the strings even, like. Even, like, the chord progressions of this song worked really, really well. And of course, the. The content of the lyrics, it was. It kind of blew my mind. Like, I. I was really, really happy with it. [00:52:27] Speaker B: I think it's beautiful. [00:52:29] Speaker A: Like. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it seems it appears to be about, like, two ex lovers meeting up again and being reintroduced in the. Like, I laugh about it, have a giggle because their mutual friend doesn't realize that they've had some horrible or amazing romantic, you know, past together. And then they chuckle about it. And then, you know, they can't remember each other's names. And like, this line, the scar is a flesh on my personal skin. Try to reach deep but you couldn't get. Now you're outside of the game. You see yellow beauty Repent all your sin Anyways. Like, yeah, stars, man. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Have you ever seen. Have you ever seen them? [00:53:18] Speaker B: No, I don't think I've seen them live, but. But this album is pretty rad, and it gets happier from there. It's just, like, up there in, like, these, like, crazy, emotional songs I really enjoy. And I would always put on mixed tapes for girl. Just saying. [00:53:48] Speaker A: All right, so right before we jumped on. Jumped into Sip and Mimo's headquarters to record tonight, I put on. I put on Instagram, you know, hey, so who would you say is, you know, an essential American. American band? And I got some responses really cool when our friend Nick from Mickey and minutes said Blink182, which I absolutely agree with. Cannot miss Blink182. I mean, when you think about the, you know, 97 to 2009 essential. And another friend in the show, Mark, he actually named some Motown bands, which. Oh, there you go. You know, like, I. I hadn't thought of before, but let's see. So we got the Temptations and Four Tops. [00:54:47] Speaker B: All right, I like that. [00:54:48] Speaker A: Which kind of blew my mind. So, yeah, so shout out to Mark and our friend Nick for responding to my post and making me rethink some things. [00:55:02] Speaker B: Who's the boy? Four Tops in and Temptations. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Mark. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Oh, Mark. There's a. I'm sure Mark has seen it, but there's a Dope Temptations versus the Four Tops medley from 1983 where they both are on stage together and are doing each other's tunes. Oh, it's. It's like a battle. It's. And it's just glorious and, like, you realize, like, oh, yeah, those were hits. Hit, hit, hit, hit. And like, that's. That's in the conversation. It absolutely has to be. [00:55:35] Speaker A: It's unreal. I mean, yeah, we should do on Michigan, just, like, if you ask me, birthplace. Punk rock, you know. You know, with MC5, Iggy massages. As a music historian, I do tend to lean more towards, like, the rock and countryside of things, but there's no denying that Motown sound, you know, there's no denying, you know, Smokey Robinson and Barry Gordy. So that's. That. As. As a. As a music historian, that's someplace I need to, like, sharpen my skills. So. Yeah. So shout out to our friend Mark for. For responding and for, you know, like I said earlier, making me rethink some things. For sure. [00:56:32] Speaker B: All right, cool. [00:56:35] Speaker A: But I. But I think that puts a nice bow on. On this amazing album. I own. I own it on vinyl. I know you said you would pick up the record as well. [00:56:44] Speaker B: Absolutely. Added to want list. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:49] Speaker B: All formats. [00:56:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's. It's beautiful. If you're not familiar with it, could not recommend it more. Our friend of the show, Marshall, once covered. It's time to move on at Gordo's open mic. [00:57:06] Speaker B: And. [00:57:07] Speaker A: And it's. It's one of those memories that's just, like, embedded in. In my, like, my memory. I always think of him when I sing this song. He is a beautiful human being, just as beautiful as this album. So, Marshall, if. If this recording finds you, you know, hope you're doing well, my friend. But. But. Yeah. So. Oh, and also check out. Check out stars. Your ex. What? Your ex lover is dead. [00:57:38] Speaker B: Yeah, the song. [00:57:42] Speaker A: Your ex lover is dead. [00:57:45] Speaker B: Sorry. Yeah, we're just breaking bad news to you guys. Song your Ex Lover is Dead off the album Set Yourself on fire. When there's nothing left to burn, you must set yourself on fire. So the album opens up. We'll get to them eventually, I think. I don't know. [00:58:07] Speaker A: And also I mentioned some books about Tom Petty. So check out Warren Zane's Petty Conversations with Tom Petty by Paul Zolo and Tom Petty. And then probably my personal favorite, Heartbreaker by Mike Campbell, Tom Petty's longtime musical partner and Guitar player is a. He's. I did the audiobook during bottle time. He reads it. It's a beautiful listen. Mike Campbell. [00:58:42] Speaker B: How about the documentary Somewhere you feel Free? Yeah, so I was trying to fit it in today, but it's great. [00:58:53] Speaker A: It's so some. Somewhere you feel Free is a. It's a documentary on. On the making of Wildflowers. It was directed by Mary Wharton and Martin Atkins. Came out in 2021. Amazingly beautiful. Beautifully shot in black and white. A lot of it's in black and white. There's some really like, intimate footage of Tom just kind of like, you know, hanging out in the studio and, you know, filming music videos and doing interviews. And I think one of the things, you know, to, to, you know, tie the knot. I think one of the things that always strikes me is like, how revered Tom Petty was by, by his band and his producers. Like, they speak so highly of him and you can tell they're not blowing smoke. [00:59:47] Speaker B: They. [00:59:48] Speaker A: They really truly, you know, felt like this guy, you know, hung the moon and, and. And I totally get why. So, yeah, so check out all these things are they. They've certainly enriched my life and I think. I think you would enjoy too. And also according to Tom, in conversation with Tom Petty, Unchained, which is Johnny Cash's second album, he did with Rick Rubin, he considers that a secret heartbreaker because the Heartbreakers were the backing band for that album. So check out that album for Johnny Cash and the Heartbreakers. And yeah, this is great. [01:00:35] Speaker B: Elliot. [01:00:37] Speaker A: So you have the A side next week, what are we going to talk about? [01:00:41] Speaker B: I feel a bit nervous after you being able to, as a journalist, wax so poetic about. About Tom Petty and, and his. And his, you know, years and, and story. But I thought something of. Of note an. An album I really enjoyed previously had. Has come back to attention. It's. It's in the. In the sphere of cultural awareness. [01:01:13] Speaker A: So. [01:01:14] Speaker B: And speaking of the Stooges, as you did previously, we're going to talk about Teddy Bears. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Okay. [01:01:23] Speaker B: Teddy Bears is a Swedish band. [01:01:25] Speaker A: I'm not familiar. Oh, wait, I have one of their, like, songs. [01:01:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure you do. [01:01:30] Speaker A: I'm sure it's punk rocker. [01:01:31] Speaker B: Yes, that's right. I insist that you see Superman before we talk. Yes. Like some brothers and some rotating people. People, including a guest starring on a track called Punk Rocker with Iggy Pop. [01:01:51] Speaker A: And he got the Godfather. [01:01:53] Speaker B: And we're going to talk about the album soft machine from 2006. It dropped right when I was in those lovely New York Days. And every single track on the album is a banger, and it's a lot of fun, and I think it'd be fun to listen to and talk and chat about for a bit. [01:02:17] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:02:17] Speaker B: It's like, I'm setting you up for, like, the best B side of all time. [01:02:21] Speaker A: I, I, I don't know. I don't know how to, how, how to explain it, but the album artwork for this, you know, at least on Spotify, looks like 2006. Like, I, like, it's, it, like, I feel like I'm in high school and I, I'm at, like, Best Buy or something. And I, I, this is. Maybe I did. Who knows? I'm excited. Yeah. I'm. [01:02:48] Speaker B: Jake is referring, referring to a model in a lovely gown with a giant teddy bear head upon her face. I've seen these guys live, and they all wear these lovely suits and then giant teddy bear heads, and it's a riot. So I know I'm following Tom Petty with teddy bears, but you'll understand when we talk about it. And I think I'm excited. I don't think it'll make a lot of sense. And I think you're gonna really dig on this album. It's a sick, you know, it's another, like, little, like, you know, some clubby hits, dance hits, radio hits. Like, this is great. And, and then they're gonna whip some stuff at you. It's gonna be fun. [01:03:36] Speaker A: Awesome. [01:03:37] Speaker B: Okay. Please watch Superman 2025 before the next episode. [01:03:43] Speaker A: That's required viewing. [01:03:44] Speaker B: It is. [01:03:45] Speaker A: In fact, I think it's streaming, so. Yeah, so we can make. [01:03:50] Speaker B: I will Venmo you. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Okay. What? [01:03:53] Speaker B: Is it on? Is it on? Oh, is it on hbo? Max? [01:03:58] Speaker A: Let's see. I'll find it. I'll find it. [01:04:04] Speaker B: We got all weird because, like, it dropped in streaming, like, too early or whatever. Like, oh, but all the Steiner people were like, oh, that means it sucks. And, and Jim's gone is like, no, that's just how things work right now. And, like, I wanted people to be able to see it before Peacemaker, too. Everyone relax. Yeah, these Snyder Bros. Are still just hanging on to. [01:04:26] Speaker A: We're, We're a very passionate bunch, sir. [01:04:29] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, yeah. [01:04:32] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. [01:04:36] Speaker B: I like all different kinds of DC Universes. That's why there's the multiverse. Everyone gets the chance to write their own thing. I do worry. Like, why don't worry about. I'm curious about where. Well, you have to watch it so we could talk about it. [01:04:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:51] Speaker B: About how, you know, if he's gonna follow the Marmula Marvel phase formula and, like, slowly increase the stakes. How would this universe work? Because at this point, it's like. And you start with Superman. [01:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:09] Speaker B: Most on paper, overpowered character. And then you're gonna go to Supergirl, and then we don't even know yet. Swamp Thing. And then, like. And then, like, Dark side shows up. Like, whoa, whoa, wait. [01:05:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:27] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't. I'm. I don't see the pattern yet, but we don't really. I trust James Gunn. [01:05:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I think it'll be cool. I mean, he, like, he mined gold from the most obscure characters in Guardians of the Galaxy, so it's Polka Dot Man. Oh, yeah. [01:05:51] Speaker B: That should be our crush friend of the show. He would get. He would get on our podcast. It could get to smallchem. [01:05:59] Speaker A: Okay. We can. [01:06:00] Speaker B: I feel pretty confident he's that kind of guy. That would be like, yeah, I got, like, 20 minutes on Monday. Let's do this. And he would just hop on and, like, talk about weird. He's into. [01:06:10] Speaker A: Okay, so do you want to switch out Tom Everett's. [01:06:12] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. We're gonna do your. Who is it? Tom Everett Smith. [01:06:17] Speaker A: Tom Everett Scott. [01:06:20] Speaker B: I don't know who it is. I don't know. Just one. I would like to pick the crush. Well, we like Alicia Silverstone. [01:06:33] Speaker A: What? [01:06:34] Speaker B: We never did like Alicia Silverstone or anything. [01:06:37] Speaker A: I know. Next season. Hey, that's our. That's our keep. That's keeping us one foot, like, in the 90s, you know, like, with these, but. Elliot. [01:06:51] Speaker B: All right, buddy. [01:06:52] Speaker A: I. I feel great. It feels awesome to be back. Thank you for finding our. Our podcast. If you're a Tom Petty fan, if you're a Stars fan, you know, thank you for finding us. Thank you for listening. This is a, you know, big passion project for Elliot and I, and it means a lot that you've been listening, so thank you. And check out Instagram. We're at Sipping Mimospod. You know, give us a follow there. Let us know if you have any recommendations. That would be fun as well. [01:07:29] Speaker B: But tell us what it should be. Tell us what we should talk about and ask us questions or whatever, and we'll. I would love to, like, get to the point where we could do, like, a Q A episode. That'd be fun. [01:07:39] Speaker A: That'd be awesome. You know, tell us what you think of Tom Petty. Have you ever seen. Did you ever. Did you ever get a chance to see him? Did you ever see stars. What do you think? What do you think about Spinal Tap, too? You know, like, which I'm. I can't wait. Long story short, I can't wait. I'm so excited. But. Yeah, but. But above all else, the one thing we want to leave you with is that you stay sipping. [01:08:09] Speaker B: Stay sipping. [01:08:10] Speaker A: Elliot. I'll catch you next time. [01:08:13] Speaker B: Later, bro, later.