The Mimo Mixtape

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Oh, hey, hey. Happy holidays. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Happy holidays, man. Cheers. [00:00:06] Speaker C: Cling ling. Ling. Cling lingling. [00:00:09] Speaker B: Chime. [00:00:11] Speaker A: Chime. I'm getting in the spirit of the season. I'm drinking a seasonal beer tonight. [00:00:31] Speaker B: What's your beer? What's your beer, bro? [00:00:34] Speaker A: What's your beer? [00:00:35] Speaker B: What is that? [00:00:36] Speaker A: What's your brew, bro? [00:00:39] Speaker B: What is that? [00:00:40] Speaker A: It's a new one. I've never tried this one. It's new Belgium holiday ale. Flavors of Cranberry and spice and everything. Nice. [00:00:50] Speaker B: How about that? [00:00:51] Speaker A: It's also 7.5%, so I'm a happy elf right now. [00:00:59] Speaker B: All right. You're doing your job. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Doing my job. I'm just getting rosy cheeked and living the. [00:01:07] Speaker B: I'm on my 19th stone ipa today, once we started recording, so I'm feeling like I want to be a dentist. Everyone's like, oh, no, you can't be a dentist. [00:01:28] Speaker A: Do you remember that horror movie from the. Think it started, like, Corbin Bernston from the major league movies. [00:01:39] Speaker B: That's a made up name. [00:01:40] Speaker A: He was the dentist. Do you remember that? [00:01:43] Speaker B: I thought you were talking about Ruth the Red rose reindeer. [00:01:46] Speaker A: Corbin Burnson. Okay, yeah, he was like the dentist. I never saw it, but I just remember the vhs jacket from Blockbuster. [00:01:56] Speaker B: It's a dentist horror movie. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Wasn't there one with Ron Howard's brother where he was, like, a nasty dentist or something? [00:02:06] Speaker A: Clint. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Clint Howard. [00:02:08] Speaker A: The dentist, too. [00:02:11] Speaker B: He got the sequel, but not the OG. [00:02:14] Speaker A: He was Clint Howard as Mr. Toothache. [00:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah, okay, sure. [00:02:20] Speaker A: What a time to be alive. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Do you have a fear of getting your teeth worked on? [00:02:27] Speaker A: No, I actually just went to the dentist last week. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Oh, good for you. How did it work out? [00:02:32] Speaker A: It went well. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Jake, you're perfect. Get your friend Elliot in. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Really? I had a really great dentist growing up. Shout out Dr. Lydia from San Antonio. [00:02:47] Speaker B: If you're listening, Dr. Lydia, I hope you like sneaker pimps if you stumbled on this episode. Thank you. [00:02:54] Speaker A: Dr. Lydia always kind of made going to the dentist not scary, and she was very kind, very kind person, and so it kind of stuck with me. Now, doctors, on the other hand, I've had, like, a lifelong fear of doctors, thanks to. [00:03:12] Speaker B: In general. [00:03:14] Speaker A: Yeah. That's all thanks to Dr. Borenstein. [00:03:18] Speaker B: What? [00:03:19] Speaker A: Borenstein? Yeah, he scared the life out of me as a little kid. [00:03:24] Speaker B: Oh, you had a rough time with a certain doctor? [00:03:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I was that kid who the admins and the nurses would see me coming. They would. Oh, he's back. I was terrified of the doctor run away. I was a kicker. Oh, man, we got a kicker. We got a kicker with vaccinations. I was not there for it. [00:03:58] Speaker C: To. [00:03:59] Speaker A: The point where every time we would drive by the doctor's office, I would try and distract my mom to that way because in my eight year old mind, I'm thinking, okay, if she doesn't see the doctor's office, she's not going to remember that I have to go back. So I'm going to distract her, and she'll forget she always remembered. [00:04:28] Speaker B: Well, that's beautiful. No, kids like the doctor. Adults don't like the doctor. It's scary. No one likes going to the dentist, you know, but. Yeah, but you, I guess you do it so you. So your teeth don't rip your skull apart. I have a kid, and she had, like, a cold over the weekend, and she's like, just not running down her nose. I'm like, hey, I was trying to teach her how to blow her nose. I'm like, out like this, and she goes, inhales. I'm like, we're so close, but think of that in the opposite way. Trying to hold up a little kinexo tissue to her, and she goes, ow. All right, never mind. We'll figure it out. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Blowing your nose is one of those things. It's kind of like when you see a baby deer learn to walk. It just happens one day. [00:05:32] Speaker B: That's so funny because. Yeah, you don't. You're not born knowing how to blow your nose, man. Bullseye. You don't know how. I use the toilet or whatever. What? This apparati. What do you mean? I'm meant to use this every day. Why? This is working out so far. The stunt comes out of my nose and it dribbles down my chin and it's fine. You wipe it up, and then you'll wipe up the other stuff, too. What do you mean? I have to go to a separate room to exhale all this stuff out of my body? What do you mean? What are these rules? [00:06:18] Speaker A: I guess we should. [00:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Please introduce the show. [00:06:24] Speaker A: Welcome back to a very special edition of sipping memos, the Internet's premier citrus based libation podcast, wherein the me Bros, aka Jake and Elliot, take an album from the radio rock and 90s electronica genres and discuss them at length. If you're just tuning in for the first time, this is a very exciting special episode. This is our holiday special. We'll get more to that later. Elliot, thanks for being here for a holiday episode. [00:07:00] Speaker B: Thanks for inviting me. I guess I'd love to be here. Thank you for being here. Thank you. I love that our show has introduced new traditions within itself and all that. And I love this idea where during the gift giving season, even, we have a special night where we just exchange presents. And I think it's really sweet. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Tonight we made a two song mixtape for each other, an a side and a b side. We're going to be gifting each other in the spirit of the holiday season, but we'll dive into that a little bit later. But I was going to ask, with the holidays coming up, have you started watching holiday movies with your daughter? [00:07:57] Speaker B: My daughter appears to be deeply into Christmas all of a sudden. I know, I do, too. It's so sweet. All of a sudden, she's like, da da. I go see lights. I'm like, yeah, you do. So even at three in the afternoon, she's like, we got to go see lights. I'm like, yeah, we probably should see. Walk around the neighborhood. And she goes, they got lights. They got lights. And then neighbors have spiraly lights and trees. And she goes, those are ice cream lights. That's very sweet. And then this other neighbor adjacent has, like, a krampus, like a scary santa, like, inflatable thing. And she goes, monsters. She goes, I go see monsters. I'm like, you know what? Let's go see the monsters. Let's go check it out. So I pick her up, we walk around, we're on the block, and she's obsessed. She's obsessed with these creepy. Someone across the street has, like, a krampus thing. And then, like, a, you know, from nightmare before Christmas. She's like, not three yet. I wonder if even that movie is, like, a bit too much. But you might get the know. Yeah. She's like, what's that? I'm like, that's a skeleton Santa. He's having a good time. I'm like, they're all balloons. Isn't that funny? They're all the Krampus. Santa fell over. And she's like, santa fall down. I'm like, yeah, Santa fall down. So scary part over, scare part over. Her whole thing is, like, scary. So anytime you watch a movie, she knows when the scary parts are. And instead of me comforting her, she runs up to me, she goes, we'll watch big hero six all the time. She goes, Baymax. Baymax. Because she likes Baymax, the inflatable guy. Believe me, I've got a plushie on the way. She goes, oh, scary part. She runs up and hops into my lap, holds me before when the villain shows up. And it's kind of scary. And he's got the nanotech and all that. It's pretty intense. It's a pretty intense movie. [00:10:28] Speaker A: Yeah. I've never seen big hero six, bro. [00:10:31] Speaker B: Bro, you should check it out. And riah, last dragon, add a tier list. Then she'll hop off my lap. She's like, okay, jed, you're fine. Part over. [00:10:44] Speaker A: I love that, man. That's amazing. I'm sure with nightmare for Christmas, they make so many books because I forget how much of a trip it is. I have some of the funko pops from on my Christmas table. I'm just, that's, speaking of Tim Burton, I just recently watched Pee wee's big adventure for my first. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Wow. Oh, um, yes. I've never seen it on my letterbox. To put. [00:11:13] Speaker A: It's like one of the most bizarre, hilarious, and honestly, like terrifying movies I've ever seen in my life. Surreal. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Well, and also, I should say Tim Burton didn't direct nightmare before Christmas. That was Henry Seller. [00:11:31] Speaker A: That's like one of those Nelson Mandela effect always. [00:11:36] Speaker B: He produced it or. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Right. So we've been doing our semi, like, biannual, normally Harry Potter rewatch. We're fixing to watch the half blood prince. [00:11:50] Speaker B: You're trying to do all the potters. Yeah. How's that, love? [00:11:57] Speaker A: I'm of the thought where it's like, oh, there's a Christmas tree in this movie. There's one of them. Or there's someone celebrating a Holiday in the snow. There's something holiday related. It's a holiday movie. That's just that. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Okay, all right. [00:12:21] Speaker A: In the Harry Potter movies, they're at Hogwarts during the holidays. I'm just, ah, holiday movie check. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Okay, sure. [00:12:30] Speaker A: So we watch those. [00:12:33] Speaker B: I was talking to my stepsister this Thanksgiving, and she's a big Harry Potter fan, and I was teasing a little bit. Like, they're no good, right? They're not good. She's like, okay, what age do I start? Because I want to read them to the kid, which sounds like an amazing time. But before that, should I do Narnia? Should I do when's Lord of the Rings? Oh, boy. All this genre stuff and fantasy stuff. At what age do I start? If I pull a book off the shelf right now and I say, elmo is about to go to sleep, she goes, my turn. And just grabs it out of my hands and goes, elmo's about to go to sleep. I'm like, okay. We say so, but if she grabs Lord of the Rings out of my hand, she goes, my turn. The eagles pick up Frodo and take him directly to mountain Dune. Problem solved. I'm like, oh, my God. [00:13:37] Speaker A: I remember I had a classmate who started reading Lord of the Rings. Probably fourth grade. [00:13:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. That's a fine. [00:13:51] Speaker A: The. I remember being like. Because I was always really into norse mythology. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Okay. [00:14:01] Speaker A: So Thor was always my guy. [00:14:04] Speaker B: Thor was always. [00:14:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I would check out, like, two books, I guess, three books from my school library. It was always where's Waldo? And the tin tin books. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Tin tin books, they're masterpieces of illustration. Yeah. [00:14:29] Speaker A: Third one was this book about norse mythology. [00:14:32] Speaker B: All right. [00:14:33] Speaker A: I imagine it's still there. I think if we go back, I'm, like, the only person who checked that book out because I would do it. I would just go weekly and I would just. Oh, man. So cool. But I remember seeing her check out these books and being, like, reading the hobbit. That's, like, a lot of words in there. [00:14:53] Speaker B: A lot of words. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Where's Waldo? [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah, where the fuck is Waldo? [00:15:02] Speaker A: I'm pretty sure that person is now a doctor, so that's good stuff. But we did home alone last weekend. [00:15:12] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:15:13] Speaker A: I started diehard today. [00:15:17] Speaker B: You started diehard? [00:15:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:15:20] Speaker B: That's a good movie. You watched it with the wife? [00:15:26] Speaker A: No, I started it solo today. But we'll probably go back and watch it together. I just kind of needed some white noise. [00:15:31] Speaker B: She's seen it, though. Yeah. All right. Just making sure. [00:15:36] Speaker A: God, Lee. That's a talk about Harry Potter. Alan Rickman, he's so evil. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:43] Speaker A: As Hans gruber. [00:15:44] Speaker B: Like, he's like Hans Gruber. [00:15:48] Speaker A: I was just hoping you were going to do it because you do the best. Alan Rickman. [00:15:53] Speaker B: The Internet's most premier citrus based mimosa review of 90s radio rock and electronica. [00:16:06] Speaker A: That is so good. That's, like, spot on. Rickman. [00:16:10] Speaker B: It's not that good. Don't forget to check the chicken out of the freezer. So properly. Do not disappoint me. That was his first movie. Alan Rickman. [00:16:28] Speaker A: He started, like, later in life. [00:16:33] Speaker B: I love hearing these later in life people that blow up because I'm about to die and I sure hope I get something good soon. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Have you seen so legendary friend of the show, Adam driver? He's fixing to come out. [00:16:54] Speaker B: Keep it down. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Is he in town? [00:16:58] Speaker B: No, he moved out. I'm just pretending. [00:17:01] Speaker A: Oh, man. He's the best. He finally made it. Got his own place. [00:17:08] Speaker B: He can finally afford it. He's doing okay. [00:17:14] Speaker A: He's doing all right. He's coming out in a new movie. Coming out on Christmas, actually, December 25. Directed by friend of the show Michael Mann. [00:17:27] Speaker B: Heat, too. [00:17:30] Speaker A: Ferrari. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Ferrari. Yeah. [00:17:33] Speaker A: He's playing enzo Ferrari, founder of the Ferrari race team and car. [00:17:41] Speaker B: Oh, the drama that must have gone on with building a car. [00:17:46] Speaker A: I think sipping Mimos planted the seed for Adam driver to step into this role, because, as you remember, starting on season one, his segment was. [00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah, just driving without him. Driver. [00:18:08] Speaker A: Freewheeling. Or freeway or cruising without him. [00:18:12] Speaker C: Driver. [00:18:12] Speaker A: It was something car based. [00:18:13] Speaker B: I think it was cruising. Yeah, let's just call it cruising. That's fine. Cruising without driver. [00:18:18] Speaker A: Freewheeling. Is it freewheeling? [00:18:20] Speaker B: Freewheel. None that we're a big deal. Hollywood has responded, and we just need to get Adam driver behind the wheel of a car because his name is. [00:18:33] Speaker A: You know, I'm sure Michael Mann stumbled on to sippy Mills and heard that these guys were onto something. I need to cast Adam driver as Enzo Ferrari in this movie. [00:18:45] Speaker B: Let's do it. [00:18:45] Speaker A: Let's go. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I imagine that's what their whole thing was. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Producer nod. Story by. That's cool. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Story by would be dope. Story by. Siba. Mimos. Oh, my God. That'd be great. That'd be great. It's probably, like, a lot of money. It'd be awesome. That'd be great. Just, like, just hit us up. You know where to find it. Instagram. [00:19:14] Speaker A: But you know. You know what? A lot of Ferraris, they don't have them anymore. Not a lot of cars have anymore, but a lot of Ferraris have. They used to have at least cassette decks. And so with that, Elliot, I'd like to present you your holiday gift. [00:19:42] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Hey. Here you go. Here's your cassette deck. [00:19:48] Speaker B: I'm opening it up. Oh, wow. What? You shouldn't have. [00:19:57] Speaker A: You're my me, bro. What can I say? [00:20:00] Speaker B: Jake? You know what? I have something for you, too. [00:20:03] Speaker A: What do you got? [00:20:04] Speaker B: Well, open it up. [00:20:13] Speaker A: It's a mixtape. [00:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a mixtape. [00:20:18] Speaker A: You ready? [00:20:19] Speaker B: I am ready. [00:20:23] Speaker C: Here we go. Yam sa. [00:21:29] Speaker A: As Elliot mentioned earlier, here on sip Mimos, we have some fun traditions we like to do. We like to do Halloween based episodes. We always like to do a holiday episode wherein we gift each other. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Usually. [00:21:45] Speaker A: A song that we are thankful for and that we want to share with our best bud. And so this year, we're actually doing a two sided. We're doing an a side and a b side for our season sippings episode. And these are songs that I don't know, for me, personally. My two songs are songs that I feel kind of, like, encompass everything that I love about sipping mimos. Well, actually. But they're both kind of, like, the culmination of the past three years. They're really a terrific blend. They're songs that I've enjoyed for quite some time, and one is on a massive album that would take, like, two episodes to talk about, and one is on an album that is a grower, but I'm super excited to talk it on. What about you, Elliot? [00:22:44] Speaker B: Yes, I was excited for this episode because. And we have done this before, where we concentrate, because we're album guys. We give each other albums, and then once a year, we like to give each other a song. Often some of our albums have one jammy jam that's like the big one, or there's like, eight of them, and it encompasses the whole thing. And then every once in a while, we like to. In the gift giving season, we like to give one song, or this year to each other just to concentrate on. I'm pretty excited about the songs I gave you, and I'm pretty excited about the songs you gave me. And I think it's a beautiful thing because I think we are thankful for these tunes. I think we're in awe of them, and I think we can talk about them for a bit. And I think we're about to do so. [00:23:37] Speaker A: I've got my jammies on. Fire is roaring. Let's talk about some 90s music. All right, Elliot. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:44] Speaker A: On my a side, I have a song here that is arguably what kick started my interest in having a show about 90s rock and electronica. I've talked at length about this in my life. Legendary Mick CD that my cousin Missy. Shout out cousin Missy. The best. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Are we starting with okay? [00:24:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Because I want to start with this is a side. This is like, wow. [00:24:13] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay, go on. [00:24:15] Speaker A: This one. I did not know the name of the song for a long time, literally, until, like, last episode, and then my brain shattered. For a long time, I thought the song was just called rain. We can talk about it, but I'm so excited to dive into this trance masterpiece. Robert Miles children. [00:25:02] Speaker B: Jake has mentioned this mixtape in passing in previous episodes, and I clocked it. I'm like, I know. Yeah. Robert Miles children. That's what he means. Or he mentioned it. And then last episode, when I mentioned you had forgotten about it. This is like, one of these guys where, I don't know, his album work necessarily, so it wouldn't work necessarily. I'll give you an album of Robert Miles, but children is a masterpiece. It is just what we talked about before, an anthem. It has transcended beyond dance music and trans music. And what they tried to say was like dream house. It starts, which is a bass line, but then you hear that roll in. And the piano. The piano is beautiful. And then slowly the pads build underneath it, and then it builds to these drums and this poca trance bass. Now this is the best trance song of all time. We talked about Sasha's expander. We talked about Paul Vidyj's foreign angel. This is what they were all trying to absolutely fucking. Robert Miles children is the pinnacle, the absolute perfect trans tune. [00:26:35] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah, this is the song. So this song, it's like, lurked in the back of my mind since, for 20 years. I got that mixed CD in 2003. [00:26:56] Speaker B: You got that mixed CD? Yeah. [00:26:58] Speaker A: And so it's been for 20 years now. And to the point where I remember when I wanted to make this type of music, I didn't realize what it was called. I remember going to guitar center and plucking around on the keyboards. I found a microcorg that's sitting on my desk right now. And the first setting on there is trance. And I remember clicking on that and playing some notes and being like, oh, this sounds like that rain song from that mix CD. I love this. I need this. So this song is literally. I've loved this song for most of my life at this point. [00:27:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it's something special. It was released like, 95 and then released in 96, charted big time, multi platinum, whatever, singles and all that. And then it just became, like this anthem and a classic in the genre that it created before expander, before Sasha's expander. So we're doing Robert Miles children's and it's something really special. And any trance DJ, your Okansville's, your Vin Burens, your whatever, it's all based on that. That's. That's the one. Because it just has this beautiful piano and it crescendos and it's beautiful. Robert Miles wrote it because he felt this sadness in them. He had seen photos from his father, who was apparently like a photojournalist in the yugoslav war. He would show him photos of children, tragedies, tragedy. And then he's in this rave scene, which is we could talk about, I suppose, but like this drug scene, and he's worried about everyone getting home okay? So he's like, I need to make a song to close out the night where everyone feels some love and wants to be careful and take care of each other. And he made children. It's called children because you are all children. Please get home safe. That's what the song is about. Robert Miles has passed. He passed in 2017 from cancer at the age of 47. Too young. Too young, dude. Too young, man. [00:29:52] Speaker A: Pulling out for Robert Miles, man. [00:29:54] Speaker B: Jeez. Yeah. Hey, to Robert Miles. But his legacy lives on with this anthem. What a legacy. If you type in Robert Miles children, or if you type in children like piano into YouTube, or you will find people on the streets just playing it and everyone stops and pauses and listens to it. It's amazing. I think it's brilliant. Yeah. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. I love everything about this one. The plucked strings that are, like, percussive. And it's so interesting because there's so many different versions of this song. The one on Spotify was not the one I had on my mixed CD. The one I had on my mixed c was probably a little bit more, like, synth heavy. Is that a ten inch? [00:30:53] Speaker B: You had four clubbers, children. [00:30:57] Speaker A: Is that seven inch? [00:30:59] Speaker B: It's twelve. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:31:01] Speaker B: It's just the camera. It takes a few inches off. It's the camera. [00:31:09] Speaker A: I swear. Elliot sent me some YouTube clips of literally, like, orchestras playing this song, and it sounds just mind blowing. The one I had on my mix CD was a little bit more like synthesizer driven ton of delay, and it was short. It was like three minutes. But when I heard this song for the first time in my mind, I thought of a dark room with a blue light and a strobe light or some type of light dancing onto a dance floor and people just going nuts. I just saw blue light blue. I can't explain it, but I get that. I thought rain. I thought of like, oh, this song reminds me of droplets of water. Maybe that was the plucking strings. [00:32:10] Speaker B: Doesn't it sound like rain? That's beautiful. I love that. [00:32:14] Speaker A: The delay on. [00:32:16] Speaker B: I love that you thought it was a song called rain. That's beautiful. [00:32:19] Speaker A: I literally, for like 20 years, was like, oh, yeah, that rain song. [00:32:24] Speaker B: That's amazing. That's amazing. [00:32:28] Speaker A: When you were like, I think you're going to know this one. And I played it, I was like, oh, yes, instant sake. But, yeah, this was such a treat. I'm keeping this one. I'm not going to forget the name of this one for the next. [00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah. And the way we would order our mixtape of songs tonight, Robert Miles devised this as the closer. He devised it as this is the last song I play, so people might have a little heart in their heart and be careful out there and get home. So if we're going to do a mixtape with our four songs tonight. This has a pretty good fairing for the last track. I like that on our mixtape. [00:33:23] Speaker A: This is like the. It's like from our holiday episode last year. I always forget the name. Little fluffy clouds. The one where you. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Yeah, the orb. [00:33:38] Speaker A: You come down after partying all night and that's what you put on when you're like, you get home and you're just like, chilling. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Miles children is like, if everyone's been partying for so long at the club, you put this one on, the lights go up. Everyone close out your tabs. Everyone get in an Uber or a lyft, please. I care for you. Please get home safe. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Wow. All right, so for my a side on my mixtape, I gifted Elliot Bittersweet Symphony by the verve, released in June 1997. Elliot, it's been like 26 years. What are your first memories or first recollection of Bittersweet Symphony? [00:35:41] Speaker B: I remember hearing it and being like, this is like the best melody I've ever heard. [00:35:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Am I wrong? This is just gorgeous. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Incredible. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it's beautiful. It's always driving upwards. Upwards and upwards. And I love that. Always. I've always enjoyed this. And I sent you the treat infamy by rest assured. Yeah. [00:36:09] Speaker A: Because I'm not familiar with this, but those are kick ass. [00:36:16] Speaker B: It became such a hit that people started covering it and doing remixes of it, and one of them was treated me by Mr. Shirt. And I like that one a lot. I like that one a lot. It's like a dance one. And I found that one off of a compilation called Herbal Beat two. It's just a cool reimagining of the tune and the melody and all that. [00:36:47] Speaker A: I love bittersweet Symphony. I don't remember the first time I heard it. It's just always kind of just like, been there. This is one of those songs that has such an infamous story attached to it. So basically, the orchestration, the strings you hear on this song were sampled by Richard Ashcroft, who is the singer and songwriter frontman of the verb. And he sampled four bars off of Andrew Oldham Orchestra's interpretation of the Rolling Stone song the last time. Now, Andrew Lug Oldham was the Rolling Stone's original manager, and he put out this album called, like, the Rolling Stone Songbook, where he had orchestra covers of popular Rolling Stone songs. Personally, I don't think their cover, it's a very loose interpretation, in my opinion. I listened to the last time by the Stones, and then I listened to Andrew Oldham Orchestra's interpretation of it. And I'm just like, I don't really hear it, but I guess that's what great art is. It's all about interpretation. I think I read somewhere online that a musicologist said that the melody was like a halftime version of the original Stone song, which I also learned in my research. So the last time was an interpretation of the staple singers, which it was a vocal group covering a gospel song that had been around for years before that. So it was like the Stones were covering the staple singers, and Ashcroft sampled the stones, you know what I'm saying? And all that. It all started with, like, a spiritual. You know what? That's where. That's where it all started. Bittersweet Symphony. I don't hear it. I hear it from the Oldham orchestra, for sure, but I don't hear any of the stones. It took me a while to wrap my head around that. So Ashcroft got the permission to sample from Deca Records, who owned the song, who originally put it out in, like, 64, but he didn't get the permission of Alan Klein, who had the rights to the Stones music from, like, 62 to 70, if I'm not mistaken. And Alan Klein is like, a really nefarious character in rock and roll history. So this guy, arguably the Beatles breaking up, can be traced to Alan Klein. He argued that, okay, you can use this sample, but Mick Jagger and Keith Richards get all the writing said. And so Ashcroft, from the verb was like, okay. Well, then he came back and said, well, you sampled more than you said you were going to sample. I'm going to sue you for all the royalties. So Mick Jagger and Keith Richards will get everything from this song. So Richard Ashcroft from the Burb got nothing for this song. For most of the late 90s, early aughts, 2010, he got nothing from this song. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Yeah, one of the biggest pop tunes in the last couple of decades. [00:40:37] Speaker A: I think I said something like, I could be wrong, but I think I read somewhere it was like $19 million in just, like, revenue from. From this song. And he got nothing because Alan Klein, this guy, was just like, by all accounts, like a shady dude. So his history with the Beatles is really quite interesting. So Brian Epstein, the Beatles original manager, he passed away. And Paul McCartney had fallen in love with Linda Eastman at the time. And her father and brother were lawyers who had a talent management agency in New York. Well, Paul wanted them to manage the Beatles, but John Lennon, who was always kind of, like, insecure with Paul and Paul's popularity because, you know, everyone's know Paul was the guy, he was the cute. Yeah. He did not want to relinquish that power to Paul. He said, oh, Paul's with Linda. Her dad and brother are going to manage the Beatles. No, I'm going to go with Alan Klein. This guy and Alan Klein, he was a snake. He buttered up Lenin. [00:42:02] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:42:04] Speaker A: There was an amazing rolling Stone article. I wish I could. We can drop it in the comments because I don't have it off the top of my head, but it came out a while ago. It's like, what broke up the Beatles? And I'll shoot it to you. We can put it in the reference. It's a fascinating article. And basically it says that Alan Klein buttered up Lenin, said that his songs were better than Paul's. He was the guy. And so John came back and was like, hey, I'm signed with Alan Klein. He got George Harrison and Ringo Starr to sign with this guy, too. Mick Jagger literally told Paul McCartney, stay away from not. He's bad news. [00:42:51] Speaker B: Wow. [00:42:52] Speaker A: So Paul did not sign with the Beatles, and that basically started the riff that would lead to the breakup of the Beatles, just because this guy, he did a lot of nasty things. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:05] Speaker A: When the Beatles were recording, let it, like, with all the orchestration, they took that to Phil Spector, right? Yeah. Normally it would have been George Martin who produced the majority of the Beatles stuff, but Alan Klein and John Lennon were trying to just get around Paul McCartney. So they were like, let's take it to Phil Spector. And they put in all these, like, if you haven't listened to, let it be. Like, john Lennon has a bunch of dumb little asides in each song, and they kind of iced Paul McCartney out from this process. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Alan Klein, rock and roll notorious personality. [00:43:52] Speaker B: Rock and roll notorious. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Yes. And on top of that, he screwed Richard Ashcroft out of millions. So when Klein passed away, his son Jody took over the management of these songs, and Richard Ashcroft people got with them, and they were able to work out a deal where they relinquished all royalties and all songwriting back to Ashcroft. Even Jagger and Richards were like, yeah, you can have it. It's cool. [00:44:28] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So in the end, it's kind of like. It's bittersweet. He missed out on decades, but he got it back, and rightfully so, for sure. I love the lyrics for 30 seasons now. The lyrics are always kind of, like, secondary to me, of course, especially for a song like this. The instrumentation on this thing is just unreal. But when I realized what the lyrics were saying, I thought they're so profound. It's like, basically he's saying, life is a bittersweet symphony. You work your whole life to try and make money, and you die. You don't get to enjoy it, what you worked your entire life for, but there's so much in your life that you enjoy. It's just really profound. I was like, oh, my God. Is this the perfect song? [00:45:29] Speaker B: I don't know. It's a beautiful tune, man. [00:45:32] Speaker A: It's killer. I really, really adore this song I mentioned earlier in a text message. I think this might be, like, the best culmination of sip and memos as a project. [00:45:45] Speaker B: All right? [00:45:46] Speaker A: Because you're sampling vinyl, you're looping it, and you're dropping in beats, you're dropping in guitars, vocals, and then rock. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Think. [00:45:59] Speaker A: I think he did it. I think Ashcroft did it. [00:46:02] Speaker B: We figured it out. [00:46:04] Speaker A: We figured it out. I think we did it. [00:46:06] Speaker B: Is the apex of Bimo's bittersweet symphony. [00:46:10] Speaker A: I think so. I think it might be, like, a good example of, like, hey, this is why we're buddies. [00:46:50] Speaker C: Take me down six underground ground beneath your feet laid out low not going to go nowhere away to me I've got a head full of drought down here in. [00:47:19] Speaker A: In 1998, an actor walked on screen and things were never really quite the same. And the reason why I said is because there was a song playing, and I'll never forget that moment, because it was the combination of like, oh, I'm ten, and there's Jennifer love Hewitt. But also, I'm a budding music fan. And what is this song? What is happening? Am I an adult now? [00:48:00] Speaker B: There was a tune that was played perfectly that encapsulated the wanton and the curiosity and the mystery of it all. Sadness and perhaps some sadness, like, you will never approach this. [00:48:18] Speaker A: And that song is side b of Elliot's mixtape. [00:48:24] Speaker B: It is the sticker Feb's sex underground. Jake, when did you first hear sticker Feb? Was it the movie 98? [00:48:39] Speaker A: Can't hardly wait. Okay, what was so funny is I don't know why, because I really hadn't heard the music of Portishead until this podcast. [00:48:51] Speaker B: God damn it, Jake. Okay, yeah, go on. [00:48:54] Speaker A: But for, like, the longest time, I thought that was Beth Orton and the boys. I was like, oh, yeah, that Porter's head song currently. [00:49:03] Speaker B: Wait, I was going to do a whole thing on Porto's head and how, essentially. So it was two guys. Singapore. There are two guys. We should probably get a female vocalist as this want for the time. So they got this girl and then if you follow the timeline, they kicked her out, dude. But they were like, we are the new portiset. Like, we are the new Porto set. They were rocking and rolling. They had two singles, six underground and spin spin sugar. Spin spin sugar was not a great, not a big old hit, but the Armand Van Helden remix was a big old hit in the Chicago house scene. See previous episodes on Armand Van Helden. I think it's the episode I announced that I had a kick. We've also talked about synchronous before on the show. On the Spawn soundtrack, they did a collaboration with Marilyn Manson. By all accounts, they hated the output. They did not like working with Marilyn Manson. I imagine Marilyn Manson was like, I just needed a lady to do background vocals. And she was cute in that video. So they got sneaker pumps to do background vocals on the track that we talked about on the last episode, spawn, they hated it. Had a really bad time. But also, the two guys in the band had started this before. They brought on Kelly Dayton. Yeah, they brought her on. And then gangbusters, they're putting out singles, and it's awesome. And they put out six underground, and it's fucking amazing. It's like one of those things, like an od moment in time where they just hit perfectly. She's kind of doing garbage. She's kind of doing bjork. They're kind of doing Porta Ted. But it's suggestible for everyone. And it blows up. And it's in every movie. It's in one of our favorite movies when homegirl walks in, because, of course, when she walks in, it's breathtaking. [00:51:31] Speaker A: Amanda Beckett. It's an iconic scene. [00:51:36] Speaker B: Yeah. It's nuts. [00:51:40] Speaker A: Of, like, the 90s teen drama comedy movies. Like, the first time Jennifer Levitt walks on the screen. She's got, like, wind blowing in her hair. It's in slow motion. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:58] Speaker A: And this song is playing and it's like, whoa, there's a presence. [00:52:06] Speaker B: Do you know how they got the name sneaker pimps? [00:52:09] Speaker A: I do not. [00:52:10] Speaker B: The singer was listening to Beastie Boys, our Beastie Boys interview, and they talking about how they got their shoes, and they said, oh, yeah, we got a guy. He's our sneaker pimp. Done. So now they are the sneaker pimps. [00:52:29] Speaker A: Why do these two dudes kick her out? Did they ever say? [00:52:34] Speaker B: Because they were already doing it before her? I think that's a story. They were trying to do it for a long time. We have an album, and we need a vocalist for this album. We need a female vocalist. Let's find one. They found one. It worked out gangbusters. And then she was like, well, I'm the band now. I don't know. And then we don't want to do that. And then now there's no more sticker pips because. Yeah, it's kind of like that. She went on to do more vocal work and all that. They went on to produce stuff. One of their name was Liam Howell, which is so deeply close to Liam Howlett of the. [00:53:26] Speaker A: That sounds familiar. [00:53:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it were. They were trying to make this becoming X album. So the album that this song is on is called becoming X in quotes. So X. And they've been asked a few times, x is like, insert yourself here. X meaning like becoming anything in the algebra equation. We are becoming whatever you want us to be. And what they ended up being was a band that is dissolved. They never got to X. But we do have this lovely tune. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Bittersweet. [00:54:12] Speaker B: Bittersweet. [00:54:16] Speaker A: We didn't plan this. We did not plan this. I watched Karen the waite God on repeat growing up. And so this song was even that short little, maybe 30 seconds of it was very much a part of my budding. Oh, I think I really like movies. I think I really like comedy. I think I really like music. Is this my identity? And so to play a part of that is really cool. And for me, it takes me right back to Karen Lee. Wait, which is one of my favorite movies. So it's a good thing. A lot of the songs by this next artist we've talked about, one of their albums can be a bummer. The lead singer himself can be historically kind of a grump, but this song is not that. Elliot, what you got on side b there? [00:55:26] Speaker B: I think I have a smashing pumpkins, 1979. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you do. [00:55:35] Speaker C: Can I make it shake down? Like gonna begin cool. Kids never have a time right about the street. You and I should like down headline we wish I would never be. [00:56:30] Speaker A: Did not realize it on this one, too, but there's some sampling going on on this thing, and electronic drums as well. [00:56:38] Speaker B: First of all, love this tune. Love this tune. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Love one of my. [00:56:44] Speaker B: Probably my favorite smashing pumpers tune. Probably. What album is this on? Or what is a beast part of? [00:56:54] Speaker A: So this is on melancholy and the infinite sadness. Released October 1995. This is the second single from this album following bullet with butterfly Wings, the rat in the cage one. [00:57:16] Speaker B: I do remember that one. [00:57:19] Speaker C: All right. [00:57:21] Speaker A: I can't do it. [00:57:26] Speaker B: We're having fun. [00:57:28] Speaker A: When you have an instrument that is so singular that there's no question who you're imitating, who we're having fun with, love them or hate them, that's pretty special. [00:57:41] Speaker B: I was going the other way. And when you have an instrument, and I thought you meant Billy Corgan's mind, like his songwriting pro s. And clearly this guy knows how to write some jammy jams. [00:58:00] Speaker A: So I think the first time I heard this one, I think I may have talked about it before. On our siamese dream episode, there was a guy who had. It was an early mp3 player, probably one that only held like 100 songs, but it was in the shape of, like, aa battery. And I think that was the first time I heard this song. It was at St. Cecilia's catholic school in San Antonio. I know that's certainly the first time I heard, like, you hear, like, you're a smash pump. You hear zero, which are really fuzzy, distorted, angry songs, bullet, butterfly wings, cherub rock. You hear all these, but this is kind of a sweet song. This is a song that's very nostalgic and singing about growing up, being young, and finding yourself, and it's really sweet. God dang. I really do love this song. It's up there for my favorite smashing pumpkin songs, for sure. I really, really do love this one. [00:59:22] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:59:24] Speaker A: I know you're a big adore guy, which is the album that followed this one. That heavy electronic element. This is kind of like a precursor to that in a lot of ways. [00:59:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:59:36] Speaker A: Yeah, big time. Yeah. I love the guitar. I love that sample throughout the song. Don't have a ton to say technically about it, but it's a song that it hits know. It makes me feel happy. It's a nostalgic song. It's uplifting. I recently learned that Billy Corgan is a huge Christmas guy. So have you seen. [01:00:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes. [01:00:08] Speaker A: It was like an Instagram ad, and they were like, tune into the wonderful world of know Christmas celebration. And it was all these kind of like mainstream pop artists. It was like the guy who won American Idol this year, and they're all catching this stuffed Mickey, and they're throwing and it's like, know, like all these guys. And then who catches, you know, like, he catches the camera and he throws it. And I remember watching on Instagram being like, was that Billy Corrigan? No way. But sure enough, they were on this Disney world Christmas celebration thing. And in this interview, he's like, hey, I love Disney. I collect Disney memorabilia. [01:00:59] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a big old nerd. That's great. [01:01:02] Speaker A: He recently got married, and his wife, I saw it popped up on Instagram, and they were at a farmers market, and they were playing the Foo Fighters everlong. And she walks up with her phone. She goes to Billy Corgan. She's like, hey. Oh, my God. Are you the Foo Fighters? Is this your song? Are you just, like, just, like, roasting this guy? And you can tell he's just, like. He just rolls his eyes and walks away. No, wait. Foo fighters, come back. I love your song. And for, like, a guy who's famously intense and kind of, like, it's so lovely to see his partnership with this woman or with his partner, and she's just having fun with him, and you can tell he's having fun with her. And it makes me happy to don't. I don't really know a ton about Billy Corgan's history and stuff like that, but it makes me happy to see most anyone happy. I love seeing his wife roast him. [01:02:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Oh, boy. I feel so thankful for the songs you've given me tonight. And what a dream. [01:02:34] Speaker A: They said it was wonderful to be able to dive into these songs that are just easy, lush, just easy listening and just to listen with the mimo's ear and be able to chat about them for a little bit. [01:02:53] Speaker B: The mimos ear. I love that. [01:02:55] Speaker A: Hashtag mimos ear. [01:02:57] Speaker B: Hashtag mimos ear. I had said, where would you put them in the order of a mixtape? [01:03:09] Speaker A: So start off with bittersweet. [01:03:12] Speaker B: Yes. Agree. Sneaker pimps for number two. [01:03:17] Speaker A: Then I go smashing pumpkins. And then children, buddy, is that what you got, too? [01:03:24] Speaker B: That's exactly how I would do it, buddy. Oh, my God. That's, like, literally the only way to do it, because we know we did it. [01:03:36] Speaker A: We cracked the code. [01:03:37] Speaker B: Yeah, we cracked the code. So what's next time? [01:03:41] Speaker A: I guess this is our unofficial, I guess, official season three finale. Yeah. We covered a lot of amazing ground this year. And on top of being thankful for these songs, I think Ellie and I are mostly thankful for the people that have found this show and that have given us a chance and given us a spin over the year or years. If you're returning, thank you for sipping memos with us, and thank you for tuning in and letting us know what you think. It's honestly the coolest thing in the world to know that there are folks out there who enjoy listening to two nerds talk about their favorite bands and songs. So, from everyone here at Sip and Mimos HQ, thank you for giving us a chance. [01:04:50] Speaker B: Yeah, thank you. And you're welcome. [01:04:55] Speaker A: But so for season four, we're going to be doing something a little different. For the last three years, we've really been diving into the decade of the not saying that we won't return to the 90s because it is a deep, rich pool that we will probably return to quite often. But we realized there are a lot of really great albums that are formative to us and to our respective lives that kind of bleed over to the early aughts. Here on sip Mimos, your 90s rock and electronica podcast, we're going to be changing it up. We're going to become Sip Mimos, your rock and Electronica podcast, just in general. So we're not going to limit ourselves to January 1, 1999, to December 31. We're going to open up the gate and just talk about albums that really have affected us or you think are meaningful. And, yeah, I'm really excited for that because there are a ton of pop punk albums that I'm going to have Elliot listen to. [01:06:22] Speaker B: I cannot wait, because, honestly, the show has never been like a. It's always been a Jake and Elliot show. But I think we should open up the aperture a little bit wider, because I think a lot of our shared listening history caves over into the early aughts, and let's just make the show musically, like. [01:06:47] Speaker A: Absolutely. Well, I think we're going to kick off season four in a big way. You know me, I'm a big album anniversary guy, okay? So my first album for the new year will be a huge one. I'll probably actually have a couple anniversary albums for 2024, but this one in particular is a lot of fun. There are some total bangers on it. Did somebody tell you that I'm Mr. Brightside? Because I've got. But I'm not a soldier. Elliot four. We're kicking it off. [01:07:39] Speaker B: Okay. [01:07:39] Speaker A: With killers Hot Fuz. [01:07:43] Speaker B: The Killers hot Fuz. When was that released? [01:07:46] Speaker A: June 2004, if you can believe it. Jeez Louise. [01:07:50] Speaker B: Well, there's an album that came out in 2010. As we are opening up our aperture by the band Pendulum, I might ask you listen to their earlier stuff as well, but this one, I think might just knock your dick off. Good luck. Buckle up, buttercup, hang on to the island part one and two. Look out for watercolor. Immunize is a really hard rocking fucking piece. This one's crazy. And now we're going into drum bass. This is Drummond bass, but we're skipping a few steps. I hope you know this. We're skipping a few steps of drum bass or getting too popular. Drum bass. [01:08:42] Speaker A: Just looking at this guest list, the band inflames is on, like. [01:08:49] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:50] Speaker A: They're like a metal core. [01:08:52] Speaker B: Oh, really? Okay. [01:08:54] Speaker A: Very, very interested to see what I'm getting myself into with pendulum. [01:09:00] Speaker B: This may just be Jake's new favorite band. [01:09:05] Speaker A: I'll take it. As we kick off season four of Sippin'memos, we're going to keep rocking and rolling and drumming and basin and we hope you come back and give us a listen. Leave us a like, give us a follow, tell a friend, and that would be amazing. Thank you from everyone here at Sip and Mimos HQ for catching this episode stumbling on us. If you are a big verve sneaker pimps fan, thank you for finding this episode and thanks for another really fantastic year of Sipamimos with us. We're at Sip Mimospod on Instagram. Give us a follow there. [email protected]. Drop us a line. Let us know what you think. We'd be happy to hear from you. We'd love it. [01:10:05] Speaker B: All the things that podcast people usually tell you to. [01:10:11] Speaker A: We should. I think that puts a bow on it. Elliot. I will cherish this mixtape and the previous year forever. I've learned a lot about a lot of amazing music, and I'm ready to dive in to 2004. I'm sorry, 2024. [01:10:32] Speaker B: Wow. [01:10:34] Speaker A: With the memo's ear. [01:10:36] Speaker B: The mimo's ear. I love that. Me too, man. [01:10:40] Speaker A: Well, with that, hey, stay sipping, stay. [01:10:47] Speaker C: Sipping, you ding ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.